Ce qu’ils disent de Chari

“Let us not commercialise our Mission”, “I am away from Chariji made by his followers”, etc.
Les critiques sont fortes et viennent de toutes parts.

Dès 1970, le Docteur KC Varadachari s’inquiète auprès de Babuji de la dérive commerciale empruntée par la SRCM. Son fils, KC Narayana, quitte la Mission en 1991, reprochant à Chari de s’être autoproclamé représentant spirituel de Babuji. En 1995, Kasturi lui fait le même reproche, en ajoutant que les abhyasis sont les responsables de ce culte de la personnalité.
Michael, ancien précepteur américain, complète ces critiques par une analyse des conséquences que cela a engendré : une atmosphère de compétition individuelle pour gagner les faveurs du maître Chari, dans laquelle tous les moyens sont bons. Jean-François ajoute Babuji demandait amour et confiance, tandis que Chari réclame une obéissance aveugle et le service de la Mission. Clark Powell, comme Michael, s’offusque de la puissance du cercle rapproché de Chari qui a pris les rênes de l’organisation.
Après 20 ans de pratique, Madeleine démonte la légende du Sahaj marg qui affirme que la transmission n’existe qu’au sein de la SRCM, apportant les preuves qu’elle existe depuis des temps immémoriaux et se retrouve aujourd’hui dans de nombreux autres mouvements spirituels.
En 2005, renouant avec les craintes du Docteur Varadachari 35 ans plus tôt, Frank (Pays-Bas), Elodie (Suisse) et Christian (France) s’offusquent de la folle quête financière entreprise par Chari au détriment de la quête spirituelle : vente aux enchères pendant le satsang, un livre à 300 € annoncé comme la Bible du Sahaj marg, …

Liens :
- Retour vers Chari, ou l’industrialisation d’une spiritualité à l’Occidentale

- Kasturi, le Docteur Varadachari et son fils Narayana
- Michael, Jean-François, Clark et Madeleine
- Elodie, Frank et Christian

Clark Powell, un étrange compagnon…

Clark Powell reprend de nouveau ses distances…

Clark Powell, ancien précepteur du Sahaj Marg dans l'Alabama et membre du conseil d'administration de la SRCM aux Etats-Unis, est l'auteur d'un des best seller de la SRCM, "The Sahaj Marg Companion".
D'après Shashwat Pandey, Powell aurait publié divers commentaires sur Facebook où il explique pourquoi il a pris ses distances et finalement décidé de quitter l'organisation. En voici un extrait, selon Shashwat, car ces commentaires ont mystérieusement disparu depuis :

For more than a decade, this article appeared on the official Sahaj Marg and SRCM websites with some of my other published work. These re-appeared (without permission) in various websites and blogs not related to SRCM. I didn't care, as long as they were re-produced accurately and someone found them useful. At the request of Santosh Khanjee in representing the Mission, the rights to this were signed over to SRCM and in a subsequent, much more restrictive legal instrument, he apparently included anything I might write or produce in the future writings.
On 11/3/2009, I requested that my published writings be removed from the SRCM websites, and I am grateful that this request was immediately enacted. For five years, beginning with my return to active participation in February 2003, I began to see something that had not been so pronounced in 1997. The group of less than a half-dozen men that Chariji chose to run SRCM and surround himself had grown more and more powerful. From my own unique vantage point of outside-insider (and this personal relation with Chariji caused considerable jealousy and consternation with some of the insiders) I saw some of the private in-fighting within this group first-hand, and also the power plays and arrogance of certain people. of trying to point out the arrogance and insularity of the circle of powerful, wealthy individuals he had chosen to surround him, especially Santosh Khanjee of Austin,Texas, who reads every email addressed to Chariji before it is forwarded to him. Though I never saw the final version of the DVD set, I was present for most of the tapings, and I hear that some of my questions were included. I find it sad that Cahriji himself is aware of the politics and power=plays, and even spoke of it at his son's farm on the videos. But Chariji has told me on several occasions that even he is captive to the organization he has created.
"If I had my way, I would never leave Satkhol. I would let others run the Mission. But my master would not allow this." I felt I should add a personal clarification to my guru, the gist of which follows:
Sir: No explanation has been asked nor is one needed. Still, after all these years, etiquette seems to suggest some sort of explanation would be right. My esteem for my friends in Sahaj Marg, and to my great Freind, has not lessened. Nor will my gratitude - for everything, even that which was not best for me personally - ever go away. Just so, I remain grateful to professors and grade-school teachers and old friends who taught me things I need at the time - this gratitude will never go, even years later, when you may have moved on to other things. As you remember, on many occasions I did attempt to make these and other views known in private to those who make decisions. I meditated for months and now years over some things, and held my silence. But now I can no longer put off what must be done. I hope you will appreciated, even if you do not agree, that for me This is a matter personal truth, integrity, and responsibility - my own sva-dharma, [the truth of the heart, "one's own way/dharma."] It would be false and wrong to allow the use of my name and my writings to support and to promote SRCM to others when I see that these writings describe a different Sahaj Marg, a Sahaj Marg that no longer exists.

En clair, il semblerait donc que Clark Powell a voulu adresser ses critiques sur la SRCM à son cercle d'amis sur Facebook. Aussitôt que l'information a filtré au-delà de son cercle, il les en a enlevées ne semblant pas vouloir alimenter la polémique au dehors.
Selon le texte fourni par Shashwat, il ne serait pas content que la SRCM et d'autres blogs ou websites diffusent ses écrits ou ses 14 années d'enregistrements de conversations avec Chari. Un accord avait été passé avec la SRCM sur son best seller, et non pas sur ses publications suivantes, mais la SRCM a continué de diffuser ses écrits sans plus rien lui demander. Sont-ce les pertes sur les droits d'auteurs espérés qui le font réagir ? ou le peu de reconnaissance qu'on lui prodigue ?
Powell conserve sa confiance et son amitié à son gourou Chari, mais il critique l'organisation SRCM actuelle, pilotée par une demi douzaine de personnes imbues de pouvoir, tel Santosh Khanjee. D'après lui, Chari lui aurait même dit qu'il se sentait captif de son organisation SRCM, mais que Babuji refuse qu'il en quitte la présidence.
Bref, Powell a fini par écrire à Chari qu'il quittait la SRCM car elle décrit un Sahaj Marg différent de celui des origines.

Quel crédit peut-on accorder à ce texte ?
Cela fait déjà un bon moment que Clark Powell émet des doutes sur la SRCM, s'en éloigne puis y revient pour mieux s'en éloigner. En 1997, il démissionne de toutes ses fonctions. Au printemps 2003, il rencontre de nouveau Chari aux USA puis renoue avec lui lors d'un voyage en novembre suivant à Satkhol en Inde. Courant mai 2004, il met en service un website intitulé invertendo.com pour les "voyageurs spirituels", avec blog et forums. Le 2 juillet suivant, Chari lui ordonne de le fermer : "I have been seeing the mails between you and others proliferating, and this causes me disquiet. By this mail I finally request you to stop your website invertendo.com permanently and oblige. I thank you for your obedience." Powell obtempère immédiatement, mais sa réponse laisse deviner une certaine incompréhension. Sans parler de sa frustration… Jusqu'à sa nouvelle démission en 2009 !

Voici ce qu'il publiait ensuite sur le blog d'Elodie le 16 juin 2006 :
ELodie, 4-d Don, Michael, Christian:
I have been reading your blogs with interest. When I discovered a reference to me in this one, I decided to drop a note to thank you and to let you know that I am working on a book that I hope will address many of the concerns expressed and correct a few misconception based on my direct experience and 14 years of recording conversations with Chariji -- I mean recording verbatim, on tape.
I once asked Chari if I could ask him ANYTHING, even those questions some might consider rude or impertinent. He was delighted -- and our conversations ever since have been "no-holds-barred"! I never hesitated to ask the kinds of questions a child would ask, or an enemy -- for enemies are considered valuable gurus to true sadhaks.
Even so, I too once got frustrated with what I thought were the foibles and political machinations of my fellow abhyasis (what group of humans is without these things) and left the Mission to go off on my own to think over some of the issues brought up here, resigned as board member of SRCM USA and as preceptor, and after a spell, returned. I suppose I now have over 200 hours taped of what seems to be a single vast conversation, one in which we have discussed seemingly everything under the sun and maybe a few things OVER the sun as well!
My Master has always insisted that abhyasis think for themselves, and that the REAL "master" is to be found within. There is much I would say about the ancient guru-disciple tradation, beyond what was published in Yoga International or in The Sahaj Marg Companion. But right now I'm amidst the chaos of liquidating all my stuff and moving to India. I'll be offline for a spell but maybe later on I can pick up and clarify.
I'm also supposed to be working on some books, and in the frank and heartfelt discussion on these blogs I find impetus and inspiration -- I thank you all for your courage and honesty!
I don't know how long it will take me to finish the book(s) or video(s) about Chariji and Sahaj Marg but I trust you will stay tuned.
BTW, did you ever hear the one about the demon Ravanna, the sworn enemy of Lord Rama? Seems Ravanna got liberated BEFORE most of Lord Rama's devotees. Chariji told me this was because in Ravanna's passion, he was in constant remembrance of Lord Rama to a great degree.
"I suppose, then, it's important to hate the right people?" I said.
"Yes," Master replied. "Bhakti is comparatively easy -- many can love half-heartedly. But who can hate with constancy and one-pointed purity of a Ravanna?"
Live, love, and laugh a lot (for God's sake, and your own, and for the rest of us, too)! Well, that's all. For now. Stay tuned...
Cp

Puis le lendemain 17 juin 2006, il refait surface sur wikipedia pour compléter son message :
"... with apologies for bending Yeats, to Elodie, 4-d Don, Michael, and Christian ~
I have been reading your blogs with interest. When I discovered a reference to a Sahaj Sandesh report I wrote and to my old blog (now closed to the public) in Elodie's, I decided to drop a note to thank you all. I'm also supposed to be working on some books, and the frank and heartfelt discussion on these blogs finally gives me, lazy fellow that I am, impetus and inspiration.
To me, such outspoken honesty deserves sincere and serious consideration!"
"And it is my humble hope that 14 years of recording verbatim conversations with Chariji can address many of the concerns, hurt, indignation, and frankly misconceptions I have read. I suppose there are now have over 200 hours taped of what now seems to be a single vast conversation, one in which we have discussed seemingly everything under the sun and maybe a few things over the sun as well!"
"The Masters have always insisted that abhyasis think for themselves, and that the REAL "master" is to be found within."
"Especially for Westerners, there is much to say about the ancient guru-disciple tradition, beyond what I could write in Yoga International or in The Sahaj Marg Companion."
"Even though I supposedly "knew" this stuff, I too once got frustrated with the 3-M's: the Mission and what I thought were the foibles of my fellow abhyasis -- what group of humans is without these things? -- and doubts about the Master and Method? (But more on this later, perhaps.) For these and other, personal reasons of my own, in 1997 I left the Mission. My idea was to try to see originally, to get some perspective. Master kindly referred to this hiatus as a sabbatical"
"but at the time I felt I would never return, since my temperament tends toward the solitary."
"This was also a problem for me during my days in a Soto Zen community, where everything is done as a group, Japanese-style. I stayed alone to think over some of the same issues brought up in your blogs. I resigned as board member of SRCM-USA and as preceptor."
"I kept in touch with Chariji by email, and went to pay my respects when he visited the States in August, 2003."
"I was making rather awkward small-talk about the ashram at Manappakkam when once again, he invited me to visit a new ashram at a place called Satkhol: "You have seen the South Pole already, Clark. Now you must see the North Pole!" I knew what he meant."
"He smiled mischievously: "If it will help I will make it a command!""
"So in November 2003, after seven years away, I was back in India, "
"I felt I would never return".
"as Chariji says, back "with the lion in his own den.""
"In Haridwar in a room crowded with about 200 abhyasis I was playing my comfortable role as journalist, trying to get my new video camera rolling, and you could see that Master was in a mood to talk. Waving off other questions, he looked at me and said, "Well?" As usual I had no questions prepared and not a thing in my head, so to stall for time, I asked Chariji if I could ask him anything, even questions some that were present might consider rude or impertinent. He smiled and laughed the high giggling laugh, one of his three laughs, the kind when he is surprised and delighted: "Of course. Please do!" I immediately asked him about his successor, if he knew now who it was, and off we went!"
"I can say that our conversations and correspondence have been "no-holds-barred" -- about building fancy ashrams, about the parampara or lineage, including Lalaji's Sufi guru (I also corresponded and later met R.K. Gupta in Delhi and recorded an interview with him)"
"but the wonders of those five weeks at Satkhol and later in Chennai were extra special. In Haridwar, after I'd turned off the camera (I was to discover that these moments often happened when no camera or tape recorder was going) Master said something that went right to my core. the conversation got around to why people leave the Mission, and I said that I didn't know about others, but in my case, it was because of the emphasis on buildings and the politics and that I had tried to depart with respect and --
"And I felt a crackling in the air, and the hairs on the nape of my neck tingling."
"The old man was transmitting something somehow in his words, just as I felt the very first time I met him in 1992 and asked him my first question.
He continued, and I have to tell you that these words went right into my heart: "You left because you have a poor self-image and you were afraid to let yourself be loved!"
"So with Chariji I never hesitated to ask the kinds of questions a child would ask, or even an enemy -- for enemies are considered valuable gurus to true sadhaks."
"From the very beginning I always had the feeling that the conversations were meant to be shared, and lately Master has made this fact very clear: "Much of what we just talked about has never been written," he told me after another typically impromptu session last January in Rudrapur. He looked at me and said, "So you better get busy, Clark. You are always recording, recording, and never producing!""
"Yikes. I don't know how long it will take me to finish the book(s) or video(s) about Chariji and Sahaj Marg but it better not be too long!
BTW, did yall ever hear the one about the famous asura or demon Ravanna, the sworn enemy of Lord Rama? Seems Ravanna got liberated BEFORE most of Lord Rama's devotees! Chariji told me this was because in Ravanna's passion, he was in a very intense state of constant remembrance of Lord Rama -- and the central law of raja yoga that we become that which we think in our hearts."
""I suppose, then, it's important to hate the right people?" I said.
"Yes," Master replied. "Bhakti is comparatively easy -- many can love half-heartedly. But who can hate with constancy and intensity of a Ravanna?""
"For all of us,"
"Elodie, Don, Michael, Christian, and if I may include myself, are still thinking of a Master (even if you do not consider Chariji to be one, you are nonetheless thinking of what a Master should be, yes?). Maybe not often, but you think about this enough and with enough intensity to cause you to make blogs about the Master, the Mission, and the Method."
"The hierarchy of the Masters of Sahaj Marg and all Masters teach the obvious, that we are all masters."
"What is it that we can claim that belongs to us? "No, God, you are not allowed into MY private hell, my secret shame!" Nonsense. Not just our virtues, our faith, our charity come from God. Even our "vices," our suspicions, our doubts, our fears belong to God. The difference between us and the greatest Avatars? Babuji Maharaj put it simply: we have more coverings."
"I like to remind myself daily: Why did I get born -- and why am I still here? What's my mission? Questions like these help me sort though what is important and what is not important. Lots of times these questions turn upside-down my notions of what is "good" or desireable and what is "bad.""
"It's good we meditate on the supposition of light -- who can argue with that?"
"So let's lighten up. Live a lot, love a lot -- and for God's sake (and our own, and for everybody else's sake, too) laugh a lot (and especially if we can laugh at ourselves) Simple stuff. Pause. Catch your breath and lower the threshold of your attention."
"Feel yourself widen out like a circle on water, lay back and learn! Joy, cheerfulness, ease, an abiding sense of gratitude -- these are sure signs we're back in close contact with Reality."
"And so to end this meditation, let us say together with the Looney Tunes, Th- th- th-That's all, folks! Meanwhile, stay tuned... Sakha 22:29, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
cp"

Christian témoigne

Pousser la réflexion encore plus loin : Les dissidents ont-ils faux sur l'essentiel ? (septembre 2011)

J'ai posé cette question à de multiples reprises au cours de la réflexion - aux uns et aux autres sur les blogs comme en privé, et à moi-même encore et encore, tentant de contempler la situation pour savoir avec certitude.

Pourquoi la réponse n'est-elle pas aussi tranchée ? Pourquoi est-ce que je reviens avec ces questions, qui impliquent que, peut-être, je me suis trompé sur Chari, et que j'ai égaré des abhyasis en les entraînant dans mon sillage révolutionnaire ?

Parce qu'indéniablement, il y a de l'esprit avec Chari. Parce que malgré son comportement, malgré ce qu'il cause, malgré les fruits pourris de cet arbre, le divin fait son chemin indépendamment de la capacité des hommes.

Je sais que tous les abhyasis de la SRCMtm continuent à s'interroger sur un phénomène récurrent et similaire : Comment des individus "spirituellement avancés" - comme on en trouve dans le proche entourage de Chari ou aux postes importants de la "mission" - peuvent-ils avoir une personnalité aussi grossière, une arrogance aussi visible, et un comportement aussi odieux ?

La réponse qu'ils trouvent est toujours "l'ego", l'un des points centraux des préoccupations des abhyasis de Chari dont personne ne parle jamais dans les groupes dissidents. L'égo (diable) est, avec les samskaras (péchés), la réincarnation (enfer), la libération (accès au paradis), le maître (Christ sauveur), le Soi (Saint-Esprit), et le Centre (Dieu), l'un des éléments structuraux du dogme judéo-chrétien hindouistanisé qui fonde le software de la SRCMtm (le judéo-christianisme a fait ses preuves pour contrôler les masses et manipuler l'histoire. Il a été détruit par la franc-maçonnerie et ses associés pour retirer ses crocs et ses griffes à l’Église. Cependant il est nécessaire. La structure psychobiologique, universelle, ou langage-machine, est retranscrite dans une matrice culturelle exotique, afin d'apparaître comme un software aux fonctionnalités nouvelles pour être acceptée plus facilement : il s'agit toujours du même système de pouvoir manipulant les mêmes leviers de la peur et du désir - le bâton et la carotte).

Quiconque a une poussée d'égo chute (en enfer), et tous ces gens qui gravitent autour de Chari ont donc été choisis par lui à ces positions de proximité pour qu'il puisse mieux travailler sur eux - sous-entendu les pauvres, ayons pitié de leur condition misérable, car nous autres petites gens de la SRCMtm vallons bien mieux que les grands (puisque nous n'avons pas besoin de subir un traitement de faveur de décalaminage profond).

J'ai longtemps cru à cette mythologie qui sonne plutôt logiquement. Je me suis cependant aperçu, avec le temps, après 10 ans, ou 15 ans, que ces proches du maître étaient vraiment indécrottables et qu'ils allaient plutôt en empirant. C'était tout de même déroutant, puisque le maître faisait parait-il sur eux un travail spécifique pour les sortir de leur misère humaine.

Il semblait au contraire qu'ils étaient toujours plus arrogants, et certains dont je ne veux pas citer de nom, étaient même parfois ouvertement odieux envers les abhyasis - au point d'être largement impopulaires dans le mouvement (humiliation + jalousie = amour fraternel ?).

Il est donc arrivé un moment où une autre hypothèse a fait son chemin dans mon esprit : la mythologie du sens commun était de la mythologie. Ce qui voulait dire que (i) Chari ne faisait aucun travail spirituel spécifique sur ces gens du cercle intérieur pour les faire "évoluer" (incapacité ou abus), et (ii) qu'il utilisait leurs caractéristiques les plus viles pour élaborer et gérer la pyramide de pouvoir au sommet de laquelle il continuait à se hisser (arrivisme).

Mais cela impliquait surtout autre chose, de pire encore : Chari ne pouvait pas être un maître spirituel s'il avait de telles pratiques, de telles tactiques, et de telles visées - et ce bien qu'il prétende être le successeur spirituel de Babuji, et bien qu'il ait l'appui des occidentaux qu'il avait su manipuler dans les années 80 et 90 pour revenir prendre le pouvoir en Inde sur toute une dissidence légitime.

Nombre d'"anciens abhyasis" avaient déserté l'entourage de Chari au fil du temps. La plupart étaient d'illustres inconnus, mais quelques pointures, et non des moindres, avaient fait parler d'elles en se retirant du mouvement avec plus ou moins de fracas. Invariablement, les rumeurs circulaient dans la masse des adeptes, que ces anciens dévots médiatisés avaient tous chuté. Ils avaient eu une crise d'égo, tourné le dos au Saint-Esprit, à Dieu, et à son Envoyé le Chari-Sauveur.

Moi-même, lorsque je joignais le mouvement à la fin des années 80, j'étais quelque peu confus par la rencontre inopinée avec une préceptrice d'un groupe de dissidents quelques jours après mes sittings d'introduction dans le groupe de Chari... Me retrouvant projeté par hasard au cœur du conflit, les opposants à Chari ne voulant rien me dire, me conseillant de suivre ma voie, et acceptant que je vienne méditer avec eux tout en continuant avec le groupe de Chari, les autres me disant que les dissidents ne reconnaissaient pas le nouveau maître et me déconseillant de les fréquenter...

J'avais donc pris cette situation comme prétexte pour demander, quelques mois plus tard, un entretiens personnel avec Chari afin de le rencontrer pour la première fois. Je voulais lui poser la question, avec à l'idée de tester le personnage pour me faire une opinion et choisir un groupe ou l'autre. En fin psychologue, Chari m'avait répondu "Ils n'ont pas su reconnaître le Maître où il est." - parlant du principe spirituel que les anglo-saxons appellent "holly ghost", le "saint fantôme" ou Saint-Esprit.

J'avais 20 ans, Chari m'impressionnait par la clarté de sa pensée, par l'énergie spirituelle qui se dégageait de lui, et par le message contenu dans l'enseignement qu'il me faisait découvrir. Les dissidents que je connaissais formaient un groupuscule peu organisé, constitué d'individus égo-centrés dont la spiritualité semblait être plus un souvenir qu'un flux puissant. Je n'avais pas d'expérience correspondant à mon aspiration. Dans le groupe de Chari au contraire, je trouvais une organisation porteuse de potentiel, un maître vivant qui semblait fédérateur, et surtout, qui avait l'esprit avec lui. C'est ce dernier point qui avait déterminé mon choix. Plus exactement, cette première rencontre avec Chari avait été fondatrice. Il n'y avait plus aucun doute, plus aucune question. J'avais vu les deux alternatives, je savais avec certitude.

Les premières années furent totalement insouciantes. J'étais porté par mon aspiration et par l'aspiration du groupe, une belle énergie régnait, l'ensemble était encore aux dimensions humaines et chacun trouvait sa place. La spiritualité était au coeur de cette belle entreprise. Nous avions, lors des séminaires, trois, parfois quatre satsanghs par jour. Chari venait en France plusieurs fois par an. L'esprit était présent en permanence et nous baignons tous dans cette allégresse, dans cette dynamique. C'était magnifique.

Avec le temps, la SRCM est devenue la SRCMtm, une machine monstrueuse à broyer les cœurs et les âmes, une usine à endoctriner avec pour seule ambition "A Brave New World" (tendance générale de la société mondialisée). Vers 1995, j'ai commencé à prendre conscience du basculement qui s'était opéré dans l'organisation, je pense vers le début des années 90. En 1997, il était si visible, avec la mise en place d'une nouvelle structure et de règles de fonctionnement plus contraignantes en vue de l'expansion à venir, que je commençais à prendre de réelles distances, torturé entre mon aspiration inassouvie, mon endoctrinement total, et l'incompréhension face à la destruction de l'âme de la mission qui était en train de s'opérer.

Jusqu'en 2005, je crus que cette destruction était le fait des abhyasis et des équipes de management. Je faisais confiance en Chari, croyant qu'il s'agissait d'une étape passagère dans le processus, que toute l'énergie était impliquée dans la mise en place de la structure mais que sous peu, un recentrage sur la spiritualité aurait lieu. Entre 1998 et 2005, je poursuivais ma pratique personnelle avec la prise régulière de sittings individuels, mais je n'assistais qu'exceptionnellement aux méditations de groupe.

En 2005, je fis le point sur la situation, car il était devenu évident que ma pratique déclinait de plus en plus. Je devais tenter de renouer avec une pratique plus suivie et une plus grande implication dans la vie sociale de la mission, puisque la pression endoctrinante dans les messages de Chari faisait son effet sur mon raisonnement.

Je me rendais en Italie et au Danemark, à deux séminaires internationaux. Ce que j'y vis me stupéfiait. Une folie collective avait contaminé la masse. L'attention n'était plus DU TOUT focalisée sur la spiritualité, mais sur l'achat de terrains et de bâtiments pour en faire des ashrams, et donc sur la collecte de fonds.

Dans un séminaire, le fils de Chari animait la vente aux enchères d'objets et d'oeuvres offertes par les abhyasis à la mission. Comme peu de participants étaient venus soutenir la première vente aux enchères, il avait été décidé de faire la suivante à l'heure du satsangh, car tout le monde serait présent. Ce fut un scandale. Les abhyasis, dégoutés, s'en prenaient au fils de Chari dans les discussions qui eurent lieu les heures et jours suivants. Ce fils honnis était un responsable immoral, capable de troquer le sacré pour du profane afin de plaire à son père à vil prix.

Au séminaire suivant, répondant ainsi à la vague de protestations avec mépris et arrogance - comme à son habitude, ce fut Chari lui-même qui anima les ventes aux enchères...

Le doute n'était plus permis, beaucoup d'abhyasis tombaient de haut, se demandant si leur idole n'était pas devenue sénile. Lui cherchant encore des excuses, je faisais partie de ceux qui supposaient que le proche entourage de Chari, constitué des pires arrivistes de la mission, avait pourri son esprit en le contaminant peu à peu avec des idées subversives. Mais en même temps, je l'avais vu animer une vente de mes propres yeux. Et j'avais vu un personnage assuré, méthodique, manipulateur, œuvrant en sachant parfaitement ce qu'il faisait, dans quel but, jouant avec l’idolâtrie des abhyasis pour leur faire vider leurs poches.

Je devais donc à un moment ou à un autre aller jusqu'au bout du processus et tester Chari - vous connaissez la suite.

Pourtant, ne pouvait-il pas y avoir autre chose derrière tous ces symptômes ? Derrière cette réalité sinistre, sordide, et animale ?

Et si Chari, malgré ses actes criminels à répétition, était un outil du divin, inconscient, piloté d'en haut ? Et si l'esprit du divin coulait à travers lui ? Et si Chari était un maître malgré tout ?

J'ai entendu les arguments des uns et des autres. J'ai vu de mes propres yeux chez les uns et les autres. J'ai vécu et ressenti. J'ai analysé et je me suis désendoctriné. J'ai appris la différence entre le pouvoir et la spiritualité, ou à tout le moins, reçu quelques insights pour savoir qu'il existe une différence.

Et pourtant, je l'avoue, je n'ai jamais réussi à trouver cette certitude, après des années de quête : que Chari ne soit pas un canal.

Aussi, j'ouvre cette section de mon blog afin de lancer officiellement une discussion dans laquelle j'invite tout le monde, tant d'un camp que de l'autre, à apporter des arguments de manière construite et constructive. Il s'agit ici d'un débat important, puisqu'il vise à (i) confirmer ou (ii) infirmer l'hypothèse des dissidents.

Si (ii) s’avérait exact, il est important que ceux qui auraient été égarés par les blogs puissent avoir les éléments leur permettant de retrouver la voie - ou plutôt, de prendre un décision éclairée pour leur destinée spirituelle.

Témoignage paru sur son blog en Septembre 2011, retrouvez y aussi ses analyses originales

Témoignage de Frank

Frank Waaldijk est un ancien Zone-in-charge de la Shri Ram Chandra Mission au Pays-Bas (encadrement d'une cinquantaine d'abhyasis). Après avoir été membre de la Mission de 1993 à 2005, il a créé un blog dénommé "Pitfalls of Spirituality".

Voici d'abord ce qu'il écrit à propos du livre "Whispers", dans un commentaire adressé à 4d-Don, où il raconte qu'il s'est ému du prix de "Whispers". Il a proposé d'en vendre aux plus riches qui pourraient le redistribuer ensuite dans les centres. On lui a répondu qu'en raison de sa position (Zone-in-charge), il n'aurait jamais du dire une telle chose et de nombreux abhyasis ont cessé de lui adresser la parole. Il ajoute que ce livre était présenté comme quelque chose d'unique pour le progrès spirituel et que certains abhyasis étaient désespérés de ne pas pouvoir l'acheter. Mais en fait, "Whispers" ne contenait rien de nouveau, toujours la même publicité pour la méthode et pour Chari. C'était donc uniquement dans le but de collecter de l'argent. Mieux aurait valu nous dire : nous voulons faire cela, nous avons besoin de tant, pouvez vous nous aider…

about the book `whispers from the brighter world' to which you refer (the spiritistic medium messages):
as you will recall it was released on chari's birthday, but only for limited pre-inscribers. in the year beforehand one could pre-inscribe at the cost of €250,- per book.
the book was described as containing unique & essential insights for spiritual progress. also, it would never be available again afterwards, it would not be reprinted.
a classic combination of fear & temptation.
but some abhyasis whom i knew were truly cut up about it, because they really could not afford such a book. and they felt, well you can imagine.
so i gave a talk (on babuji's birthday) in denmark, relating personal experience with a third-world surgeon who gave out his books for free, because he wanted his knowledge to be used by doctors all over, without financial barriers.
but, is said, i understand the wish to finance certain activities. and i so suggested that instead of selling the €250 books piecemeal, it would be better to sell them 10 or 50 at a time to well-off people, who could then give away a remainder to centers all over, so that everyone would have easy access to this valuable spiritual material.
you will not believe how i was reprimanded for this talk. someone was sent over to tell me that as a zonal-in-charge (which i was at the time, but only of the netherlands, so about 50 people...) it was entirely inappropriate for me to say things like that.
other abhyasis, some of them whom i had been friendly with for years, really avoided me and cut off their contact with me.
well, i won't go into all the details, the illustration is clear. but in retrospect, when the book finally came out, i was even more flabbergasted to see that it contained such spiritistic medium garbage.
i have looked at a few of the messages. they do not contain any new insight. they are just advertisements for the method, and especially for chari.
so in essence it was a money scheme. the reason why i mind is that it was not put simply as an open request: we would like to do this and this, for this we need such and such amount, if you feel like helping us, please donate.
it was intricately tied to spiritual progress and morality (we should help master and give money), and people really felt bad about not buying the book.
i will address these issues certainly in posts to come (afterlife, group morality & moral pressure, fear & temptation, money, power).

Toujours sur le blog de 4d-Don, Frank répond ensuite à un commentaire laissé par Madhav à propos des finances de la SRCM. Il revient une nouvelle fois sur l'imposture de "Whispers", mais aussi sur des ventes aux enchères de livres organisées par Chari en personne ou sur la Fondation SMSF qui aurait été créée dans le but de collecter les donations afin de permettre de faire vivre la SRCM grâce aux seuls intérêts du capital géré par la fondation.

Madhav said...
Yes the mission growing! It needs funds.This post is garbage and I feel it should be ignored totally!
One can see the falacy in the reporting here. None of the fund raising schemes are compulsory. It for those who can afford. People who cannot afford can listen to DVDs and CDs in monthly functions. Books from local chapter are available for reading free of cost. And most of all everyone who contributes is fully aware that he is not getting material return and that he is contributing to the overall functioning of the mission.

Frank Waaldijk answer...
i do not think this post is garbage.
perhaps the style is not the most effective. perhaps there is some overemphasizing.
but as an ex-abhyasi with 12yrs of sincere and dedicated participation in srcm, i can without any doubt in my mind state the following.
i have seen from up close the psychological manipulations around `whispers from the brighter world'. this book was presented beforehand as absolutely essential for one's spiritual progress, and it cost €250. make no mistake, such pressure is not defendable under any spiritual flag.
i have witnessed a constant remembrance of the need for funds. i have seen auctions by chari, where an abhyasi who had just started, could finally obtain a book signed by chari for €10,000.
you can say that people do the same silly things over john lennon's guitar...yes you're right but wasn't this supposed to be a spiritual movement instead of a money machine? what guru should allow such idolatry that people would be willing to pay such ridiculous amount for his signature? shouldn't he be concerned that this abhyasi might be under some temporary influence and cannot really miss that money? should he be not concerned that this abhyasi might later regret his impulse?
and these are but some examples.
the funds of the srcm are a complete mystery, there is no public accounting.
if one is honest, about goals and means, then one has nothing to hide. therefore, charities typically publish their year accounts in the public domain. that way, everyone can see that at least the financial side of things is above board.
the very fact that srcm has no public figures AT ALL, forces people like don to create posts like these.
if you disagree, then please rebut using simple accounting numbers.
some vague reply like: `oh you are just so negative, but all is done in good faith and there is no compulsion' just doesn't cut any ice.
the claim in the two comments above that don's information is false...i would be happy to see this claim substantiated, since then finally there would be some real insight into srcm's financial operating.
however, i also know this: smsf was set up along with the specific goal of creating a trust fund large enough that srcm could live off the interest money alone.
so that the srcm would never have any financial worry.
this to me is also a very unspiritual way of hoarding money, completely comparable to what the roman catholic church does. in a world where poor people need direct incentives to better their economic position, a spiritual movement cannot in good faith put the perpetual functioning of its organization above the direct help which is necessary to ameliorate the poor people's economic position.
and so, no this post is not garbage. it is a necessary first step in demanding accountability of an organization which claims to need funds, when in reality what it needs is probably a reality-check. (yes, that is a word pun, some humour might cheer us all up :-) )

Témoignage de Frank Waaldijk, ancien abhyasi du Sahaj Marg pendant 12 ans aux Pays-Bas (1993-2005), laissé en commentaire sur le blog de 4d-Don en août 2008. Il a créé un blog dénommé "Pitfalls of Spirituality".

Elodie témoigne

Pour que vive le Sahaj Marg, débarrassé des dérives de la Shri Ram Chandra Mission
Une critique de la Shri Ram Chandra Mission par une abhyasi adepte du Sahaj Marg

Je pratique la méditation selon le Sahaj Marg depuis de nombreuses années. C'est un enseignement spirituel dont je n'ai jamais trouvé l'équivalent nulle part ailleurs.
J'aurais aimé pouvoir dédier ce blog à la gloire du Sahaj Marg. Mais aujourd'hui je ne comprends plus la Shri Ram Chandra Mission ni mon Maître Chariji.
On nous demande sans arrêt toujours plus d'argent. Pourquoi ? Que s'est-il passé ?
J'ai demandé des explications. Mais dans mon centre, on a refusé de me répondre et même de m'écouter. J'ai longtemps réfléchi mais ça ne peut plus continuer comme ça.
Je sais que d'autres abhyasis se posent aussi des questions comme moi.
Pour moi, la goutte d'eau qui a fait déborder le vase, c'est la sortie de "Whispers from the Brighter World".
Au printemps dernier, Chariji nous a demandé d'acheter ce livre les yeux fermés. Il n'était pas encore imprimé, il n'avait pas de titre et Chariji a refusé de nous dire ce qu'il y avait dedans.
Il nous a dit de payer 250 €, rien que ça, parce que nous devions lui faire confiance. Après ce serait trop tard, même si nous lui donnions des millions.
Dans mon centre, vu le montant, tous les abhyasis se sont cotisés pour en avoir un exemplaire. Mais une fois obtenu, le livre était en anglais et on nous a interdit de le traduire et même d'en citer des extraits en groupe. La raison officielle était qu'une version française viendrait plus tard.
Effectivement, à l'automne, on nous a demandé 300 € pour obtenir la version française, à verser avant la fin 2005, mais livrable début 2007 ! Et on nous a interdit les achats en groupe...
N'en déplaise à Chariji, ces pratiques de vente sont dignes d'une société commerciale, pas d'une organisation spirituelle.
Je ne connais pas beaucoup de livres qui coûtent aussi cher, même à compte d'auteur. Ce qui fait qu'il n'ira qu'aux plus riches d'entre nous. A moins de désobéir.
Sont-ce là des manières de faire normales pour une organisation spirituelle ?
Le Sahaj Marg est un enseignement merveilleux, mais la Shri Ram Chandra Mission est entrain de se fourvoyer. La méthode est bonne, l'organisation pourrie. Quant à notre Maître bien aimé Chariji, je ne sais plus...
Puisqu'on nous refuse la discussion à l'intérieur, je vous invite à le faire depuis ce blog pour que vive le Sahaj Marg, débarrassé des dérives de la Shri Ram Chandra Mission...
Elodie
Une abhyasi désespérée

Message d’ouverture du blog d’Elodie le 8 janvier 2006

Les personnalités du Sahaj Marg

Selon la légende officielle en vigueur à la SRCM, Chari a succédé à Babuji qui a succédé lui-même à Lalaji, en droite et directe ligne de succession. Rien n’est moins vrai ! La réalité raconte une tout autre histoire. Lalaji a eu de nombreux successeurs, Babuji a passé sa vie à renier son héritage soufi après s’en être emparé et Chari n’a jamais été son successeur officiel, même si c’est lui qui a le mieux réussi du point de vue numérique.
Kasturi et Varadachari, deux personnalités de premier plan du Sahaj Marg de Babuji, se sont élevés contre les évolutions matérialistes et financières de cet enseignement. Dès 1970, Varadachari s’inquiétait de la dérive commerciale de la SRCM, et son fils Narayana a quitté Chari en 91. Kasturi, qualifiée de sainte du Sahaj marg par Babuji, a pointé la dérive vers un culte de la personnalité de Chari, dans un célèbre discours en 95.
Le petit-fils de Lalaji n’hésite pas à rappeler toutes les différences entre l’enseignement soufi de son grand-père et le Sahaj marg d’aujourd’hui. Quant à Umesh, le fils de Babuji, il a passé sa vie à s’opposer à Chari…

Liens :
- Lalaji, Babuji et Chari
- Kasturi, Varadachari et son fils

Voir aussi :
- La famille de Lalaji et celle de Babuji
- Les disciples de Lalaji , ceux de Babuji et les successeurs de Chari

Chari, ou une industrialisation spirituelle à l’Occidentale

Aîné d’une fratrie de 3 garçons, Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari dit Chari est né le 24/07/1927 dans la banlieue de Chennai. Sa mère est morte alors qu’il avait 5 ou 6 ans. Diplômé d’une licence scientifique, il rejoint le conglomérat industriel TTK & Co en 1955, dont il prend rapidement la direction de sa filiale Indian Textile Paper Tube, jusqu’à sa retraite en 1985. Il se marie aussi en 1955 à Sulochana, dont il a un fils unique, PR Krishna, qui naît 2 ans plus tard. Celui-ci a 2 enfants : Barghav né en mars 88 et Madhuri en 91. Sulochana décède le 2/11/1999.
Ce brahmane parlant tamoul, mangeur de riz et fumeur de cigarettes Dunhill, connaît bien la culture occidentale et la maîtrise parfaitement. Habile chef d'entreprise, il sait parfaitement diriger les hommes et gérer ses affaires.

Chari rencontre Babuji en 1964. Il devient son secrétaire en 1970, puis il reçoit de sa part une déclaration de nomination à la présidence de la SRCM en 74. Tous deux sillonnent le monde occidental pour présenter le Sahaj marg jusqu’en 82.
Mais Chari est rejeté par la plupart des seniors précepteurs qui le jugent trop occidentalisé. A la mort de Babuji, ils lui préfèrent Umesh, le fils de Babuji. Désormais Chari préside une SRCM non officielle, mais s’accapare la marque commerciale Sahaj Marg TM.

Chari se retranche au sud dans l’ashram de Chennai, mais n’hésite pas exercer un chantage auprès des précepteurs, dans un courrier leur laissant le choix entre radiation ou allégeance. Il reprend aussi de force quelques ashrams tels ceux de Visakhapatnam, Nellore et Vadodara dès 1984-85. Mais surtout, il parcourt tous les continents en quête d'une légitimité qui lui manque, faisant ainsi de l'Occident sa tête de pont.
Pour mieux coller aux attentes occidentales, il n’hésite pas à modifier la pratique spirituelle, et revisiter son histoire. Une fois codifiée et ritualisée, la légende instaurée et le produit spirituel bien standardisé, la marque Sahaj Marg™ est déposée le 29 juillet 1997. Pour couronner le tout, les statuts de la SRCM, société californienne, sont déposés dans la foulée.
KC Narayana le quitte en 1991, Kasturi prend ses distances en 1995. L’un et l’autre lui reprochent d’avoir cédé au culte de la personnalité.

La stratégie de séduction des Occidentaux utilisée par Rajagopalachari ainsi que ses méthodes de management s'avèrent payantes si l'on en croit les chiffres avancés par les uns et les autres. Babuji comptait environ 3 000 disciples et 180 précepteurs en 1983. Rajagopalachari porte ce nombre à 20 000 en 1991, 50 à 55 000 vers 1995-97 et 75 000 en 2000 avec environ 1 500 précepteurs.
Fort de son succès et de l'argent qui lui vient de ses troupes occidentales, Rajagopalachari revient en Inde en 1999 pour fêter le centenaire de la naissance de Babuji. Le 30 avril, il inaugure le Babuji Memorial Ashram, à Manappakam dans la banlieue de Chennai, un ashram de cinq hectares qui peut accueillir 13 000 personnes à l'intérieur de son hall de méditation.
Si l'on en croit le principal intéressé, le retour de Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari en Inde connaît un succès foudroyant et est couronné par une victoire à plate couture sur son organisation rivale, la Shri Ram Chandra Mission de Shahjahanpur. En 2003, il annonce que le nombre de ses disciples a été multiplié par trois en trois ans. De 75 000 en 2000, il serait passé à 200 ou 300 000 dès 2003-04.

En 2005, parvenu à l'apogée de son pouvoir, Rajagopalachari nomme son successeur. Il fait reconnaître la SRCM au Département de l’information des Nations unies, lance la "Nouvelle bible" du Sahaj marg, un livre qui compile les paroles d’un Babuji de l’au-delà rapportées par une médium, crée une école et des centres de retraite…

Liens (en chantier) :
- Les successeurs de Chari
- Ce qu’ils disent de Chari

Les successeurs de Chari

Le 29 avril 2005, Rajagopalachari écrit une première lettre de nomination de son successeur, Ajay Kumar Bhatter, jeune homme d'affaires du Bengale occidental et membre du Comité exécutif du président depuis 2003, choisi par Babuji et confirmé par la hiérarchie du Sahaj Marg, signature ratifiée par seize autres personnalités. Et il annonce publiquement sa nomination le lendemain, à l'occasion des soixante ans de la Mission et le jour même du 106ème anniversaire de la naissance de Babuji, dans un discours intitulé "Securing the Future of the Mission", alors qu'il va sur ses 78 ans. AK Bhatter a été choisi par Babuji, il est entraîné à cela depuis des années et le sera encore durant toute la vie de Rajagopalachari. Il lui succèdera donc comme représentant spirituel de Babuji et président de la Mission partout dans le monde. Mais AK Bhatter jette l’éponge 5 ans plus tard, usé par la cogestion avec Chari, les manœuvres et manipulations de toutes sortes. Chari annonce sa démission le 2 mai 2010.
Six ans après avoir nommé son premier successeur officiel, Rajagopalachari nomme donc un second successeur le 26 juillet 2011. Il désigne Kamlesh Desaibhai Patel, pharmacien à Brooklyn d’origine indienne, dans un document cosigné par US Bajpai, AK Bhatter et Sanjay Bhatia. L’annonce officielle n’a lieu que 2 mois plus tard, le 3 octobre 2011. Mais comme la première nomination, celle-ci a été approuvé par Babuji depuis l’au-delà, dans un message colporté par la médium à l’intention de Chari.
Né dans le Gujarat (Etat de l'Ouest de l'Inde, frontalier du Pakistan), Kamlesh a émigré aux USA il y a plus de 20 ans pour devenir pharmacien à Brooklyn (il aurait la cinquantaine). Suite à sa nomination par Chari, il s’est installé à Garden of Hearts (Chennai), face au Babuji Memorial Ashram. C’est un cacique, abhyasi de la première heure, précepteur depuis presque aussi longtemps, passé par toutes les fonctions de responsabilité (zone-in-charge, region-in-charge, etc.), jusqu’aux postes de directeur de la fondation américaine SMSF et grand médiateur de la nouvelle Equipe de Service mondial de la SRCM.
Cet indien d’origine vit à Staten Island aux Etats-Unis, dans l’état de New York. Un Indo-américain à la tête de la SRCM, c’est nouveau. S’il succède véritablement à Chari – à l’inverse d’Ajay – choisira-t-il les USA ou bien s’installera-t-il définitivement en Inde ?

Une légitimité s'acquière, elle ne se décrète pas
Ces 2 nominations visaient un double objectif : mettre un terme aux querelles de succession et rassurer les abhyasis quant à leur avenir. Mais il ne faut pas se leurrer, ces annonces officielles n’ont jamais réussi à éteindre complètement les hostilités entre les différents prétendants à la succession, elles ne font que les mettre en sourdine à défaut de les étouffer. Déjà, les abhyasis ne succombent pas tous au charisme des successeurs désignés. Cela ne va pas sans grimaces et grincements de dents. Mais il faut bien accepter la volonté du gourou, et donc faire avec…
Chari n'a nommé ses successeurs que pour mieux calmer les multiples prétendants à sa succession, mais ce ne sont que des pantins. Leur légitimité s'éteindra d'elle-même à la mort de Rajagopalachari. Une légitimité s'acquière, elle ne se décrète pas. Les enjeux sont considérablement plus grands qu’à la mort de Babuji.
Dans cette course à la succession, son fils PR Krishna, le richissime héritier et grand argentier de la Shri Ram Chandra Mission, qui gère les biens fonciers et immobiliers de la Mission, tout comme son petit-fils Barghav et sa petite-fille Madhuri sont bien placés. Santosh Khanjee, l'éminence grise qui connaît tous ses secrets et qui tient d'une main de fer toute l'organisation et les fondations a aussi ses chances. Mais ses hommes de main souvent à l'avant-garde des prises en force d'ashrams et de tous les coups tordus, tels Uma Shankar Bajpai et Arokiasamy P Durai (retraité des forces de police), s’agitent aussi.
Sans parler de la médium de Babuji (Catherine Lauret ?), qui avait prédit qu’Ajay Kumar Bhatter ne succèderait pas à Chari, à peine six mois avant sa démission. Pour une entrée en scène, c’était parfaitement orchestré, une réussite totale. Mais attention, son prestige pourrait être de courte durée. C’est une femme et Chari a toujours dit qu’une femme ne pouvait pas devenir gourou.
Du côté des outsiders, les petits-enfants de Lalaji et Babuji, Dinesh et Navneet, voient là une opportunité de reprendre des rênes qui leur avaient échappées. Mais la récente exposition médiatique du fils du Docteur Varadachari, KC Narayana, laisse supposer qu'il entend bien tirer son épingle du jeu. Et si Kasturi reste toujours en dehors des jeux de pouvoir, il n'en va peut-être pas de même de ses collaborateurs. Et qu'en est-il de Srinivasa Rao à la tête de la Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj Seva Trust à Cuddapah ?
Et en 2011, un autre petit-fils e Babuji, Sharad Chandra, crée la Society for Babuji’s Mission, parce qu’il considère que la SRCM devenue trop imortante a relégué au second plan les aspects spirituels du Sahaj Marg…

D'ailleurs Rajagopalachari lui-même s'en inquiète et le révèle en janvier 2009. Il déclare qu'un cancer ronge le Sahaj Marg de l'intérieur et que son organisation est menacée de désintégration. Il fait des cauchemars où il voit la Shri Ram Chandra Mission se désintégrer en 240 petites missions.

Liens :
- Chari, ou l’industrialisation d’une spiritualité à l’Occidentale

Procès-verbaux du Comité de travail et de l’AG de la SRCM de février 84

Les minutes du Comité de travail de la SRCM des 6 et 7 février 1984
(fautes typographiques comprises)

Minutes of the working committee meeting held on 6th and 7th February 1984 (Sunday and Monday) at 10 AM at Shahjahanpur.

The following members of the committee were present.
1. Shri PC Chaturvedi
2. Shri PC Saxena
3. Shri BM Heble
4. Shri R Rajagopalachari
5. Shri RL Mimani
6. Shri KV Subba Rao
7. Shri VR Vipat
8. Dr SP Srivastava
9. Shri KC Narayana

Ex-officio Members
1. Shri SA Sarnad, Secretary
2. Shri Kashi Ram Agarwal, Joint Secretary
3. Shri JRK Raizada, Secretary to president
4. Shri Rajeshwar Prasad Mathur, Zonal Secretary
5. Shri Dunderao Nagnoor, “ “
6. Shri Kanti Bhai V Patel “ “
7. Shri Ramapati Dinger “ “
8. Shri Raghubir Prasad Agarwal, Acting Zonal Secretary

BY SPECIAL INVITATION
1. Shri Sarvesh Chandra Saxena
2. Shri Jalbhai Cassad
3. Khoosalbhai K Patel
4. Shri SC Kishore
5. Shri Ram Gopal Verma
6. Shri Sushil Kumar
7. Shri RS Giri
8. Shri Nasib Chand
9. Shri KK Srivastava

ITEM NUMBER ONE OF THE AGENDA
Mr PC Chadurvedi being senior member requested the members of the working committee to propose the name of the Chairman who should conduct the proceedings of the meeting.

RESOLUTION
a) Shri S.A. Sarnad proposed and insisted that Shri P.C. Chadurvedi should be requested to chair the meeting being the senior member of the working committee and a close associate of our Revered Master, Shri Ram Chandra ji Maharaj. And Shri K.V. Subbarao seconded the proposal. The rest member of the house honoured the same. Shri P.C. Chadurvedi occupied the chair and conducted the proceedings of the meeting.
b) The chairman of the meeting proposed that all the members of the working committee should take an oath before the Samadhi of Revered Master and the following oath was taken by all the members of the working committee ;
“We the member of the working committee solemnly affirm an oath before the Master that ; -
I. We all shall be working jointly for the Mission and abide by the desire of the Master.
II. The desire of the Master shall be honoured in every matter and in all respects.
III. We shall endeavour to create a feeling of brother hood and co.operation among the Abhyasis of the Mission.
IV. We will not involve ourselves in any type of activity that would be determental to the ideals of and aims of the Mission.
V. We shall always live for the Mission and the Master.
VI. We shall abide by the rules and consittution of Shri Ram Chandra Mission and follow the ten commandments of Sahaj Marg.
We pray for Thy continued Blessings to live upto Thy expectations.”

At the request of the special invities the Chairman of the meeting agreed to take the items as listed in the agenda from 1 to 8. First immediately after the confirmation of the meeting of the working committee held on 10th July 1983.
The Chairman requested the committee members to takeup the items of the agenda one by one and decide the issue before us regarding the President of Shri Ram Chandra Mission.

RESOLUTION NO.1*
Mr. S.A. Sarnad Secretary of SRCM read the minutes of the meeting dated 10-7-1983 in details and members concerned had big objection on the sealed cover given by Shri Sharad Saxena for declaring as bogus and forge and also the claims of Shri P. Rajagopala chari vide his alleged nomination letter dated 23.3.74 x said to have been executed by Shri Ram Chandra Ji Maharaj and letter dated 19.3.1974 furnished by Shri P. Raja Gopala Chari along with the photocopy cover of the x envelope has to be re-discussed after the discussions of the items of the agenda., and this was the opinion of the all the members present in the meeting. The Chairman asserted and announced that the members will be given the opportunities to discuss on the above said two letters produced in the form of photocopies cannot be taken as authentic unless the originals are produced.
The rest of the minutes as read by Shri S.A. Sarnad were confirmed and adopted. Resolved that the minutes of the meeting dated 10.7.83 were read confirmed and adopted subject to the uscertvue opinion of Chairman Shri. P.C. Chadurvedi regarding the alleged nomination dated 23.3.74 and a covering letter dated 19.3.74 which are to be examined and the opinion of the members to be obtained accordingly

2. Shri S.A. Sarnad produced before the working committee a letter dated 5.5.1983 and 22.8.1983 of Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena alongwith the nomination letter dated 16.4.1982 before the members of the working committee. The members present examined the documents including the declaration/nomination letter dt. 16.4.1982 made by Shri Ram Chandra Ji, Founder President Shri Ram Chandra Mission in favour of Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena and found the same as genuine. Mr. Umesh Chandra Saxena who was present in the meeting on request also showed the originals of the declaration/nomination letter dated 16.4.1982 including the letter dated 5.5.1983 and 22.8.1983. before the Chairman and later on to all members present in the meeting. Mr. P.C. Chadurvedi examined the documents with reference to the registered constitution and rules and by-laws of Shri Ram Chandra Mission and gave the opinion that the nomination of Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena is validly held and is as per the rule 3(b)of the rules and constitution of Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
Under the circumsatances the members present accepted the document and the following resolution was passed.
RESOLVED THAT SHRI UMESH CHANDRA SAXENA IS AND BE HEREBY ACCEPTED AND APPROVED AS THE PRESIDENT OF SHRI RAM CHANDRA MISSION IN VIEW OF THE NOMINATION/DECLARATION DATED 16.4.1982 MADE BY SHRI RAM CHANDRAJI, THE FOUNDER PRESIDENT OF SHRI RAM CHANDRA MISSION UNDER RULE 3(b) OF THE RULES AND CONSTITUTION OF OF SHRI RAM CHANDRA MISSION.”
IT WAS FURTHER RESOLVED THAT Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena, President Shri Ram Chandra mission shall enjoy all the powers as vested with the Founder President under the rules and constitution of Shri Ram Chandra Mission”.
RESOLVED FURTHER THAT “Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena is and be hereby requested to form and appoint fresh members of the working committee or adopt the members already in the list of working committee appointed by the Founder at His own discretion”.

3. Mr. S.A. Sarnad informed the members that the notice was given will in advance to Shri P. Rajagopala chari for attending the working committee meeting and to bring the original papers of nomination letter (alleged) said to have been executed by Shri Ram Chandra Ji, the Founder President of Shri Ram Chandra Mission letter dated 23.3.1974 and 19.3.74. But, to our surprise neither he has attended the meeting nor he has brought the originals nor sent the originals through his brother and hence his claim in view of these circumstances is recommended to be rejected or cancelled but requested the member to give one more chance for amicable settlement and was further suggested that goodwill committee be formed to pursuate Shri P. Rajagopalachari for amicable settlement inorder to keep the solidarity in the Mission and to create a feeling of brotherhood and co-operation among the abhyasis of the Mission. However, this was further pointed out that inview of the latest nomination dated 16.4.1982 there is no need to go and consider this nomination (alleged) letter dated 23.3.1974. and it will be rightful attempt on the part of committee members for not to go inquestion of appointing a President and this dispute is settled and superceded the claim of Shri P. Rajagopalachari. In view of the above following resolution was passed ;
RESOLVED THAT “The claim of Shri P. Rajagopalachari vide his alleged nomination dated 23.3.1974 stands rejected/withdrawn”.

4. Shri S.A. Sarnad produced before the members a copy of the registered will dated 30.12.1976 and read the same before the members present. He also exclaimed that the registered will clearly states that our Revered Master Shri Ram Chandra Ji Maharaj was having a doubt of the lost papers may not be used in future by the person who has stolen it. for making it as a nomination or will in his favour and the members of the house now suspects that the alleged nomination dated 23.3.1974 and a covering letter 19.3.1974 is the result from those lost papers, said to have been said in the registered will dated 30.12.1976 in view of the declaration/nomination letter dated 16.4.1982. Mr. P.C. Chadurvedi during observation and the circumstances of the case was of the opinion that the alleged nomination dated 23.3.74 and covering letter dated 19.3.74 is the result of forgery. Since the incidents explained in the letter dated 19.3.1974 and especially clarifies a doubt from the second para of the letter.
“I have issued a certificate which I am sending with this letter. Preserve this certificate as valuable document.”
It can be very well imagined that the nomination which is [illisible] to have been issued on 23rd March, 1974 how can this be sent with the covering letter 19.3.74”.
And further that as it is asserted in the letter in the first para of 19.3.74 that Mr. and Mrs. Don is doing excellent service, thanks to them”.
Mr. Umesh Chandra Saxena showed me a letter dated 9.4.1975 in which it is stated that Mr. and Mrs. Don were in India during second week of April and left for Canada on 17th April, 1975, who has been doing his nursing” With this proof, it is evident that there is something fishy of the claim of Shri. P. Rajagopalachari
RESOLVED THAT “Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena President Shri Ram Chandra Mission be and is hereby requested to form a new working committee with the help of Shri P.C. Chadurvedi, Senior member and to make the via media arrangement for the appointment of the Chairman of the working committee till the atmosphere/undertainity is made under control amicably by interference of the senior members and bringing Mr. P. Rajagopalachari to some understanding so that the split in the Mission is avoided.”
In view of the above, a good-will committee was suggested to the President and the suggestion given by the member was well accepted

6. Mr. Umesh Chandra Saxena was requested to handover the photocopy of the letter dated 5.5.1983 and 22.8.1983 alongwith the declaration/nomination dated 16.4.1982 to Shri S.A. Sarnad who inturn will inform the acceptance of the declaration/nomination of Shri. Umesh Chandra Saxena to all the members/preceptors/abhyasis/organisers regarding such nomination.

7. Mr. S.A. Sarnad was requested by the house to send the copy of the resolution and the minutes of the meeting is being held on 6th February and 7th February, 1984 to all its centres/preceptors/abhyasis the relevatn government authorities including assistant registrar Firms/Societies and Chits Baraily for making necessary change in records of Shri Ram Chandra Mission and to add the work Successor President in place after Founder President.
All Banks, Post Offices, Income Tax Department, Foreign exchange Department, Local Administration, Police Administration etc. be also be informed accordingly.

8. RESIGNATION OF SHRI KASHI RAM AGGARWAL
Mr. Kashi Ram Aggarwal insisted that his resignation as Joint Secretary of the Mission was given in the meeting on 10.7.83 should be accepted and he is not interested to continue. Under the circumstances explained all the members present felt that the resignation of Shri. Kashi Ram Aggarwal should be accepted and the following resolution was passed.
“RESOLVED THAT the resignation of Shri Kashi Ram Aggarwal be and is hereby accepted and Mr. S.A. Sarnad be requested to inform all the person concerned accordingly”.

With the permission of the Chair the meeting was concluded.

Sri P.C. Chaturvedi
Chairman of the Meeting.

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Les minutes de l’Assemblée générale de la SRCM le 8 février 1984
(fautes typographiques comprises)


MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE GENERAL BODY HELD ON 8th FEBRUARY,1984
(TUESDAY AT 3 PM AT THE ASHRAM PREMISES) AT SHAHJAHANPUR.

Mr. P.C. Chadurvedi was requested to occupy the chair as a Chairman of the Mission.
There were 982 members assembled in the Meditation Hall of the ashram premises where the Preceptors, Prefects, Organisers, abhyasis and Working Committee Members including the President Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena nominated vide nomination letter dt.16.4.82 made by Shri Ram Chandra Ji Maharaj, the Founder President of Shri Ram Chandra Mission were present.

1. Mr. S.A. Sarnad read before the General Body the minutes of the Working Committee held on 6th 7th February, 1984. The resolution passed therein was un-animously accepted and approved by the General Body. The General Body Members present in the meeting were greatly concerned about the unnecessary conflicts created by P. Raja Gopalachari which they consider were not in the interest of the Members/Abhyasis/Preceptors and was very much against the Aims and Objects of the Shri Ram Chandra Mission. During the courseof questioner Mr. P.C. Chadurvedi tried topecify the members and is requested to forgive Shri P. Rajagopalachari and assured the house that necessary steps are taken to amicably settle the issue, sothat the brotherhood feeling remains for brother Parthasarathy in your hearts.
RESOLVED THAT “The resolution passed from resolution number 1 to 8 are unanimously accepted, approved and adopted, by all the Members present”.

2. The minutes of the meeting held on 10.7.83 held on at Head Quarters, Shajahanpur was approved and accepted by the Members subject to the incorporation of resolution 1 of the Working Committee held on 6th 7th February, 1984.

3. The members present requested the Chairman to read the declaration/nomination letter dated 16.4.82 made by Shri Ram Chandra Founder President of Shri Ram Chandra Mission. And the same was done before the members which reads as follows:

Gram-Sahajmarg
Tele
Phone- 2667
Shri Ram Chandra Mission
Shahjahanpur (UP) 242001 India

Regd. A.D. Date16th.April.1982

DECLARATION/NOMINATION"

I, Ram Chandra, Founder President of Shri Ram Chandra Mission, Diwan jograj, Shahjahanpur in Exercise of my Power under Rule 3 and 4 of the Rules and constitution of my Private Trust/Society, on my free Will and Accord and upon the due consideration of the totality of the circumstances prevailing in my said Mission including wishes and blessing of the Almighty and that of my Samarth Guru Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj of Fatehgarh, do hereby nominate my Spiritual Representative as also my son Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena as Successor President of Shri Ram Chandra Mission Shahjahanpur, with liberty to him, to further nominate his successor President of Shri Ram Chandra Mission with the condition that the person so nominated by him as his successor President of the said Mission must be his spiritual representatives in his direct line of succession.
I shall however continue as President of aforesaid Mission till my life time and this nomination shall come into play only after my death.
Previous nomination if any, made by me, shall stand superceeded and cancelled.
Affectionately yours
RAM CHANDRA"

The above letters of nomination dated 16.4.82 the members present greated and congratulated Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena and requested him to carry and fulfil the dreams of our Revered Master. Shri Ram Chandra Mission and Mr. Umesh Chandra conveyed his willingness and promised to go with the path shown by our Revered Master.
RESOLVED THAT Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena is and be hereby authorised to carry out the functions as President Shri Ram Chandra Mission as per the rules and constitution, Shri Ram Chandra Mission”.

4. RESOLVED THAT the claims of P. Rajagopalachari in terms of the alleged photocopy of the nomination letter dated 23.3.1974 and covering letter dated 19.3.74 in view of the registered will dt. 30.12.76 made by Shri Ram Chandra Ji is being rejected.”

5. The Members present were informed by P.C. Chadurvedi, the Chair man of the meeting that as per the rules and constitution of Shri Ram Chandra Mission the President can come under clause or rules 3(b) of the constitution of SRCM which is reproduced below.

3. Organisation:
(a) The Mission shall have its Headquarters at Shahjahanpur, in the state of Uttar Pradesh, India.
(b) It shall work under the sole guidance and control of the Founder or His Spiritual Representative in the direct line of succession, and he shall be the President of the Mission.
(c) The President may at his discretion, establish branch societies and training centres affiliated to the Headquarters of the Mission in all matters of organisation and control, at other places as well, to promote the cause of the Mission.

Hence under the circumstances the nomination dated 16.4.1982 made by Shri Ram Chandra Ji Maharaj, in favour of Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena is valid and held to be genuine and further informed the members that he is the President of the Mission from today. He further requested the members, Abhyasis, Preceptors/Organisers and Members of the Working Committee to co-operate in carrying out the functions as President of Shri Ram Chandra Mission as per the direction and instructions given by the Founder President Shri Ram Chandra Mission.

6. Mr. P.C. Chaturvedi informed the Abhyasis, Preceptors, Organisers, Working Committee Members and others that one year long confusion has been vanished today by the grace of our Divine Master and we hope with your continued help and cooperation everyone will load his own way towards the success[xxx] of the Mission and will cooperate in fulfilling the dreams of our Revered Master, for which the Mission was established for the Mankind and the world at large. It is further my earnest pray to our Revered Master to bless us all in carrying out his duty and responsibilities given to our shoulders to His satisfaction.
Let in pray, with joined hands to maintain the solidarity and [illisible] feeling among the abhyasis of Shri Ram Chandra Mission. Let us also set an example so that the [illisible] once they look at us they should call ourselves as [illisible] members of such an Organisation, so that [illisible] our introduction [illisible] a lesson for [illisible] to follow.

With this in view we conclude our meeting.

Shri. P.C. Chadurvedi
Chairman of the Meeting.

Une succession bien peu spirituelle

Querelles & controverses

En 1974, Babuji nomme Chari pour lui succéder à la présidence de la SRCM. En 1982, il nomme son propre fils, Umesh Chandra Saxena. Il nie avoir jamais désigné Chari comme son successeur et il l’accuse d’attenter à sa vie depuis 8 ans.
Que s’est-il donc passé entre 74 et 82 pour un tel revirement ?

Deux nominations pour une seule présidence
Chari est introduit au Sahaj Marg en 1964. Il devient le secrétaire de Babuji en 1970 et l’entraîne dans une première tournée occidentale en 1972. Entre temps, le docteur Varadachari est décédé en 71.
Babuji fatigue et vieillit lui aussi. En 1973, Ragavendra Rao, Kasturi et Chari lui proposent de le décharger de son travail spirituel en se partageant les zones d’influence : Kasturi au nord, Rao au sud et Chari en dehors de l’Inde. Mais Babuji refuse. En 74, il est hospitalisé au Vivekananda Hospital de Lucknow. Au mois de mars, il fait sa déclaration de nomination de Chari à la présidence pour lui succéder. En 1979, il confirme son choix de Chari à KC Narayana, lui disant qu’il devra travailler avec lui et le soutenir dans sa tâche. Un autre abhyasi, qui se présente sous ses seules initiales JM, prétend que Babuji le lui a aussi confirmé à Munich en 1980.
Effectivement en 1980, Babuji et Chari voyagent ensemble au Danemark puis à Munich. En bonne intelligence au début au Danemark, mais beaucoup moins à Munich ensuite semble-t-il. André Poray s’y oppose vivement à Chari, à tel point que ce dernier dit qu’il n’ira plus jamais en France (alors qu’il est en Allemagne). La rivalité entre Chari et Poray apparaît ouvertement.
En 1981, Ragavendra Rao et Ramachandra Reddy entraînent Umesh, le fils de Babuji, dans un long voyage officieux aux Etats-Unis. Ces 2 full précepteurs ne font pas mystère de leur opposition à Chari, et Umesh apparaît comme leur faire-valoir, même s’il prend peu part aux méditations collectives.

Une bien sombre année 1982
En 1982, Babuji est usé et le calendrier se précipite. Le 6 avril, Babuji écrit un courrier incendiaire à Chari. Celui-ci lui répond le 12, mais Babuji n’en a cure et rédige secrètement la lettre de nomination d’Umesh le 16.
En septembre, Babuji et Chari sont à Paris, tout comme André Poray. Babuji est au plus mal, il est malade et délire. Il ne peut marcher seul sans tomber sur les genoux, 2 hommes sont nécessaires pour le porter jusque dans le hall de méditation (d’après le témoignage de Michael). Chari n’y est pas le bienvenu et reste à l’écart.
Depuis Paris, Babuji écrit une lettre confidentielle à son disciple MD Jahagirdar le 2 septembre où il accuse Chari d’essayer de l’empoisonner depuis 1974, et de déclarer à tous qu’il sera le prochain président alors que lui Babuji ne l’a jamais nommé. Mais Jésus Christ le protège, et Babuji révèle à Jahagirdar qu’il a nommé son successeur sans le lui désigner nommément et 4 personnes associées )Michael estime qu’à ce moment là, on pouvait faire faire n’importe quoi à Babuji vu son état de santé).
Aussitôt après son retour en Inde, le 6 septembre, Babuji est hospitalisé à Delhi à l’AIIMS et à la Clinique Helvetia, jusqu’à son décès le 19 avril 1983.

Le comité au travail
Le 10 juillet 1983, une première rencontre du comité de travail de la SRCM officialise les candidatures à la présidence. Deux lettres de nomination sont examinées : celle de Chari et, plus curieux, celle de Sharad Saxena (petit-fils de Babuji et fils de Prakash). Rien encore en ce qui concerne Umesh. La demande de Sharad unanimement considérée comme frauduleuse est rejetée. Celle de Chari est mise en doute en raison d’un tampon de la poste antérieur à la date du courrier. Une nouvelle rencontre est programmée en février 1984.
Le comité se réunit donc à nouveau les 6 et 7 février. Chari n’est pas le bienvenu, ses partisans ont été violemment refoulés de l’ashram. Réexaminée, sa candidature est déclarée frauduleuse. Mais entre temps est arrivée la candidature d’Umesh. Il est reconnu comme le président de la SRCM. A charge pour lui de former un nouveau comité de travail et désigner un autre président intérimaire pour ce comité, afin d’éviter une scission et dans l’attente que Chari se fasse une raison.

Clairement, deux clans s’affrontent : les seniors précepteurs indiens rejettent Chari, beaucoup trop occidentalisé à leurs yeux. Son rival André Poray s’est rallié à cette cause avec une partie des disciples français. Pour l’exclure et par souci de légitimation, ils ont reporté leur choix sur Umesh, le fils de Babuji. Mais dans les deux camps, tout le monde s’accorde pour dire que les enfants de Babuji n’ont jamais montré un intérêt particulier pour le Sahaj Marg de leur père.
De son côté, Chari est soutenu par la communauté occidentale, principalement au Danemark, aux Etats-Unis et en Allemagne (elle est plus partagée en France, on l’a vu). Néanmoins en Inde, Kasturi et KC Narayana, le fils du docteur Varadachari, lui apportent leur soutien. KC Narayana est le seul membre du comité de travail à avoir confirmé la validité de la lettre de nomination de Chari.

Le secrétaire général SA Sarnad est chargé de diffuser partout la nomination d’Umesh et les minutes du comité de travail dans une circulaire. Une assemblée générale réunissant 982 abhyasis a lieu le 8 février et entérine les décisions prises par le comité. La circulaire est rédigée le 15 février. SP Srivastava est nommé président du nouveau comité de travail de la SRCM le 20 mars.
Chari s’empare des ashrams de Chennai et Hyderabad. SA Sarnad rejoint les rangs de Chari et la circulaire n’est pas envoyée partout. Chari écrit à tous les précepteurs pour réclamer leur allégeance ou leur destitution. Les ashrams de Visakhapatnam, Nellore et Vadodara passent sous sa coupe.

En 1991, KC Narayana cesse de soutenir Chari et le quitte, puis c’est au tour de Kasturi en 1995…

Liens :
- Nomination de Chari
- Nomination d’Umesh
- Lettre de Babuji à Jahagirdar
- Procès-verbaux de la SRCM en 1984
- Circulaire de nomination du président
- La SRCM et l’ashram de Shahjahanpur
- Babuji et sa famille
- Chari (en chantier)

Autres sources :
- Témoignage de Michael
- Témoignage de Cyrille

Déclaration de nomination d’Umesh

Nomination of Umesh as the Spiritual Representative 1982.04.16, entitled "DECLARATION/NOMINATION" (written: not specified)

"I, Ram Chandra, Founder President of Shri Ram Chandra Mission, Diwan jograj, Shahjahanpur in Exercise of my Power under Rule 3 and 4 of the Rules and constitution of my Private Trust/Society, on my free Will and Accord and upon the due consideration of the totality of the circumstances prevailing in my said Mission including wishes and blessing of the Almighty and that of my Samarth Guru Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj of Fatehgarh, do hereby nominate my Spiritual Representative as also my son Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena as Successor President of Shri Ram Chandra Mission Shahjahanpur, with liberty to him, to further nominate his successor President of Shri Ram Chandra Mission with the condition that the person so nominated by him as his successor President of the said Mission must be his spiritual representatives in his direct line of succession.
I shall however continue as President of aforesaid Mission till my life time and this nomination shall come into play only after my death.
Previous nomination if any, made by me, shall stand superceeded and cancelled.
Affectionately yours
RAM CHANDRA"

The letter is signed with Babuji's signature, stamped 3 times by the same stamp mentionning "Notary Public, India" and "App by Govt. of India, T.S. Upadryay" (not sure for the last word - almost illisible).
The copy is attested with a stamp mentionning "Attested Feu [??] Photo Copy, Notory Public, Noida", signed and added manually with the date of 16/9/93.

Liens :
- Une succession bien peu spirituelle
- Nomination de Chari
- Nomination d’Umesh
- Lettre de Babuji à Jahagirdar
- Procès-verbaux de la SRCM en 1984
- Circulaire de nomination du président
- Babuji et sa famille
- La SRCM et l’ashram de Shahjahanpur

Circulaire du Secrétaire S.A. Sarnad en date du 15 février 1984

CIRCULAR
To All the members of the working committee,
Centre-in-charges/Preceptors/Organisors
of Shri Ram Chandra Mission in India
and Abroad :
Sub : Declaration of Successor President
of Shri Ram Chandra Mission,
Shahjahanpur. U.P.

Dear Brothers/Sisters,
Here I am pleased to inform you that our Revered Master Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj had nominated Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena vide declaration/nomination letter dated 16.04082 and the same was produced before the member of the working committee on the 6th and 7th. Feb. 1984 for approval and consent of the members and the members present have accepted and approved the nomination dt. 16.04.82 in favour of Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena S/o Late Mahatma Ram Chandraji Maharaj. Hence with effect from 7th. Feb. 1984 Mr. Umesh Chandra Saxena is now the SUCCESSOR PRESIDENT of Shri RAM Chandra Mission Shahjahanpur.
The Minutes of the working committee were further produced before the General Body members of Shri Ram Chandra Mission and the declaration/Nomination letter dt. 16.04.82 were unanismously approved and accepted, this is just for the information of the brothers and sisters. In this connection kindly find enclosed the following for your record of information.
1. The Copy of Declaration/Nomination Letter dt. 16.04.82
2. Extract of the minutes of the working committee meeting held on 6th. And 7th. Feb. 1984.
3. Extract of the minutes of the General Body meeting held on 8th. Feb. 1984.
We request all the members/abhiyasis/Preceptors/organisors to cooperate with the President of Shri Ram Chandra Mission, Shahjahanpur.
Yours affectionately
S.A. SARNAD
SECRETARY
CC Shri Umesh Chandra Saxena
President SRCM

Liens :
- Une succession bien peu spirituelle
- Nomination de Chari
- Nomination d’Umesh
- Lettre de Babuji à Jahagirdar
- Procès-verbaux de la SRCM en 1984

La declaration de nomination de Chari

Nomination of Chari as the President of the Mission, dated from the 23rd March 1974, not specified were it was written

"I hereby nominate my disciple Sri. P. Rajagopalachari as my representative to work for the Mission as President in the Sahaj Marg System. As long as I live, I will be doing my job, Afterwards he will enjoy the fullfledged authority given by the Constitution and bye-laws of the Mission.
May God's grace shower through him to all mankind.
President
Shri Ram Chandra Mission
Shahjahanpur U.P. (India)"

The letter is signed with Babuji's signature.

Babuji a donc rédigé une courte lettre de nomination de Chari. Elle est datée du 23 mars 1974. Il est désigné comme « son représentant pour accomplir le travail de la Mission en tant que Président ».
Kasturi déclare que Babuji lui a dicté la déclaration. KC Narayana confirme son existence et sa véracité mais ajoute qu’elle n’a pas été attestée par des témoins. Un disciple qui se fait appeler JM pour conserver son anonymat dit que Kasturi et Donald Sabourin en furent témoins.
Lors du comité de travail de la SRCM des 6 et 7 février 1984, il est signalé que la déclaration est datée du 23 mars, alors que le tampon du courrier est antérieur et porte la date du 19 mars, ce qui amène les membres du comité à craindre quelque chose de louche. Le secrétaire général ajoute que Babuji s’est plaint de la disparition de papiers à entête de la SRCM dès le 30 décembre 1976. Umesh Chandra Saxena produit un document qui établit que les Sabourin n’étaient plus en Inde mais sont retournés au Canada lorsque Babuji est censé avoir écrit cette lettre.
Umesh et ses enfants ajoutent que jamais Babuji n’aurait pu écrire une telle lettre sans citer son maître Lalaji. Ils disent en outre que les statuts de la SRCM rédigés par Babuji spécifient qu’elle ne peut être présidée que par « son fondateur ou son représentant spirituel, en ligne directe de succession », ce qui signifie pour eux un descendant direct.

Liens :
- Une succession bien peu spirituelle
- Nomination d’Umesh
-Chari (en chantier)

La SRCM et l’ashram de Shahjahanpur

Le 20 mai 1945, Babuji a une intercommunication avec Swami Vivekananda dans ses rêves qui le pousse à créer la SRCM : "As you are to have a registered body 'Shri Ram Chandra Mission', call a meeting of the persons who are to be the members of this body to start with. (...) The body will be called 'Shri Ram Chandra Mission, Shahjahanpur (U.P. - India)'".
La société SRCM est officiellement enregistrée le 21 juillet 1945. Ses statuts précisent qu’elle a son siège à Shahjahanpur et que son président doit être son fondateur Babuji, ou bien son représentant en droite ligne de succession : « it shall work under the sole guidance and contrlo of the Founder or his Spiritual Representative, in the direct line of succession ; and he shall be the President of the Mission. »
Plus tard, Babuji prend sur ses terres pour bâtir l’ashram de Shahjahanpur. Aucun argent n’est demandé à personne, chacun est invité à partager la nourriture et le logement de Babuji. Seule concession financière, il est possible de laisser une contribution.

Une présidence intérimaire (1984-1994)
Après sa mort, le Comité de travail de la SRCM nomme son fils Umesh à la présidence. Mais pour éviter une scission, la Mission est conduite par le président du Comité de travail, SP Srivastava. Les seniors précepteurs qui ont comploté contre Chari tiennent la SRCM de Shahjahanpur : Ragavendra Rao et Ramachandra Reddy sont membres du comité.
Sous la houlette du président par intérim SP Srivastava, la SRCM de Shahjahanpur édite la deuxième partie de l’autobiographie de Babuji. Elle couvre la période de mai 1944 à juin 1955, soit la période des débuts de la SRCM et du Sahaj marg, en 3 volumes édités à 2 à 3 mille exemplaires.
En 1988, un premier incident les oppose au clan de Chari, qui tente de reprendre par la force l’ashram De Shahjahanpur, avec à sa tête AP Durai, un ancien officier de police devenu un proche de Chari.
En 1990, la SRCM est toujours présidée par le Docteur S.P Shrivastava, son secrétaire est V.D. Mahajan, le secrétaire adjoint S.C. Saxsena. Les membres sont : Raghvendra Rao, P.C Saxsena, S.C Kishor, D.R Bithal Rao, N.R Gupta, Paramatma Swaroop, V.P Mathur, B. M Hewal, B. C Saxsena, R.D Pawar, L.K Sharma, M.K Gupta, Dr. Lalit Kumar Gupta, Rajan Kumar, Vasudev Singh, ChandraShekhar, Mrs. Ramakochar, M.D Jahangirdar, Naseeb Chandra, R. Ramchandra Reddy, Dr. S.B Shyam, Kantilal, Ramayati, R.B Mathur et Mrs. Manbhagwati Devi.

Les descendants de Babuji (1994-2006)
En 1994, Umesh Chandra Saxena met fin à l’intérim de Srivastava et reprend la présidence de la SRCM. En 1996, Umesh nomme l’un de ses abhyasis précepteur et l’envoie aux Etats-Unis comme secrétaire de la Mission. Celui-ci crée un website sur lequel il publie les lettres de nomination de Chari et d’Umesh. Une nouvelle attaque de l’ashram a lieu en 1997.
Umesh Chandra Saxena décède le 3 novembre 2003, son fils Navneet lui succède le lendemain mais l’ashram est à nouveau attaqué les 7 et 8 novembre suivants.
Le 2 avril 2006, US Bajpai s’empare de l’ashram pour le compte de Chari.

L’ashram de Shahjahanpur aux mains de Chari (depuis avril 2006)
Cyrille témoigne que, du temps d’Umesh et de Navneet, l’ashram de Shahjahanpur s’était transformé en forteresse assiégée, où nul ne pouvait plus entrer.
Suite à la reprise de l’ashram par US Bajpai, Chari s’y rend en grandes pompes courant octobre 2007.

Depuis, c’est le benjamin de Babuji, Sarvesh, qui en est le gardien (Sarvesh et sa femme sont précepteurs de la SRCM de Chari). Cyrille ajoute que l’on entre et sort maintenant de l’ashram sans aucun problème.

Liens :
- Nomination d’Umesh
- Procès-verbaux de la SRCM en 1984
- Circulaire de nomination du président
- Témoignage de Navneet Kumar Saxena
- Extrait du website de la SRCM de Shahjahanpur
- Attaques de l’ashram de Shahjahanpur
- Le secrétaire de la SRCM US témoigne
- Babuji et sa famille

Témoignage de Navneet Kumar Saxena

We are running a spiritual society, Shri Ram Chandra Mission. It was started by my Grandfather, Shri Ram Chandra ji maharaj of Shahjahanpur. He left his physical body in 1983.
After leaving his physical body One of his disciples came up with a forged nomination which evident from the document itself to a layman with typewriting used twice and even the printed name of socity of emblem are not in aligned to each other as is in case of Printed letter heads. Moreso no where in text has he been nominated as the President of the society Shri Ram Chandra Mission. These are onle some of the startling facts of the document.
There was however a nomination given by the founder in name of my father Sh. Umesh Chandra which was in line with constitution & byelaws of the society then registered way back in 1945. He was accepted as president in 1984 by the Managing Committee of the society.
Law of UP Society Act changed in 1984 to election since then we are following the law and after Sh. Umesh Chadra ji's unnatural death in 2003 his son Navneet Kumar have been elected as the President by the Elected body.
Atrocities of the disciple claiming President ship in 1984 increased ever since I have taken over. he started a parallel society in the same name with its Head Quarters at Chennai.
We are seeking justice ever since 1984. but are not getting the same from all the courts because of reasons below:
He has appointed sitting and ex judges of Allahabad High court in his legal committee, Sitting & Ex IAS officers, Businessman, Foreign Nationals, and Retd. IPS Officers who seemingly are not only influencing the judicial but also Administrative Authorities, who on our face agree that we are talking legal but who either dismiss out petitions or give judgements/orders against us. Many a times if u notice the findings they are in our favour but judgement is not. Moreover he has aides of fund and money from India and abroad too.
He claims himself as Guru but as per the literature of my grandfather there shall be no more Guru other than him. Others shall be his successors and he shall act through the spiritual representative. Moreover even his literature and his last letter clearly states that he has not appointed the Alleged disciple as his successor and that he has nominated his spritual representative in Direct ine of succession which was as per the constitution & Bye law of the society and the act at the time of his physical demise.
Moreso the alleged disciple has also changed the constitution to suit him, but the change fortunately has not been accepted by the Registrar of Societies.
Aides of the said alleged claimant have not only harassed us mentally but also attempted on our lives several times as the alleged disciple had done with his Guru. Which is clearly evident from the notorised last letter of the founder president Shri Ram Chandra ji Maharaj of Shahjahanpur.
He has been misguiding the public at large since over Two decades now. This is being continued due to delayed justice.
Recently last year his aides Ex IPS Officer, Ex IAS Officer and Ex Judicial Officers came in into our Ashram with 150 people and attacked wife of Sh. Umesh Chandra, who is above 60 years of age and Sh. Amresh Kumar the Ashram Incharege who is about 65 years of age in presence of Police security which was provided by then DM & SP of Shahjahanpur. On the plea of the victims being beaten by the crowd also the police did not move a wee bit and people who opposed were beaten and pushed out of Ashram by Police officials. The police and Administration of Shahjahanpur, UP supported them there was a call from Mrs. Umesh Chandra's son to the SP too when the incident was taking place as someone informed her son about the incident on his mobile, who was at Mumbai at that point of time. SP refused to offer help and stated I cannot do anything sorry. and he later stopped picking up his phone.
Both sufferred injuries and they were taken by our advocate who arrived at the incident spot a while later were taken toand went to the Civil Hospital where the Medical report clearly states that they were beaten had bruises and with possibility of internal injury. The victims went to the police station to file FIR they refused to register saying No One in Shahjahanpur will file your FIR. They faxed the FIR to the DM copy to the Chief Secretary of UP and later even to the court. But the FIR is not filed as yet. The case is pending at this point of time too.
There have been incidents of even placing High Court of Allahabad orders in district court even before the hearing of case at the High court took place and the order was released. This was reported with proof to the CJI. CJI has ordered enquiry which also we know would die its unnatural death as other enquiries of the President of India, Vice President of India, The Prime Minister of India has died its unnatural injustice death.
If such a a person claims to be spiritual GURU like personality how humanely is he acting can be visible but no action whatsoever by the Authorities, People at large or even Media is taking place.
We have a feeling that since Media is not getting active even after our regular followups and requests to enter into the issue as a common man cannot even live peacefully in this country with citizens who are responsible for degrading the system of the society and the country.
So where is the justice without media intervention as the justice is in hands of the higher ups and people having contacts in this country.
We have left things to Supreme court today hoping that justice may be given at this Apex court atleast.
Navneet

Answer to Anonymous dated Fruary 10 2007
I still abide by the everlasting fact that Babuji is the only and the last Guru of Shri Ram Chandra Mission. As dictated by his master Shri Lalaji maharaj, which is clearly mentioned in his diaries. Original of which is with us, and is being Published in 7 volumes as Divine Order, Volume 1 to 7.
I am just a succesor representative who is not a master but will be able to make you fell what you felt during Babuji's time. If you have those inner eyes to understand and feel the spiritual transmission. Also make you feel the presence of Babuji.
Only thing which is necessary is that you should be able to feel the actual spiritual transmission What SRCM is known for. Which I guarantee others are not able make you feel.
Answer to Anonymous dated February 11th 2007 at 10.04 AM
Please read the comment written by me in detail. Presently the Ashram is not in the hands of the notorious disciple and his associates as of now.
Hence presently if you are a true abhyasi of Babuji maharaj alone then please do not visit the ashram.
Answer to Anonymous dated February 11th 2007 at 10.09 AM
Original Publications of Babuji's books are available with us.
Babuji's family house is still intact at Shahjahanpur.
Answer to Alexis, Cyril & Others dated 13th Feb 2007 to 19th Feb., 2007
You can post on this site I shall answer all your questions.
Please note that every word written in my comment has authentic proof behind it. Which also includes publications as news in newspapers of the country too.
The prrofs of the same shall be on the net in afew days from now for all of you to gauge and understand the reality on your own.
Regards
Navneet

To see the documents see website www.srcmshahjahanpur.org.in
Regards
Navneet [on February 22, 2007 10:42 PM]

Mother & Shri Amresh kumar are fine now. Except for the fact that Sh. Amresh Kumar is now listening things loud. Think his ear has been affected.
Ashram is in name of Shri RAm Chandra Mission and not in name of any Individual. But, presently as per the fact stated earlier yes it is in possession of Chari's people.
There are cases going on in courts. Yes some body has posted an article regarding the case in supreme court. It has been heard on 6th & 7th Feb recently and Yes order is awaited.
Regards
Navneet

Yes! Babuji had done a will and got it refistered in court ay back in 1976 stating that he had lost 4 signed papers and there are chances of its misuse
The meeting referred to in 1984 was a meeting which took place on 6th & 7th February 1984.
The copy of the minutes is available with us and it clearly states that Chari's nomination seem to be false and it also clearly accepts Umesh Chandra's nomination to be in words used by Babuji and elects him as president which was also confirmed by the General Body on 7th Feb., 1984.
It was on Babuji's orders that Shri Umesh Chandra did not be very active for 11 years to avoid these disturbances as Babuji clearly said that like he was poisoned and there were disturbances when he took over from his Guru same is expected after his physical absence.
Let it be clear to all that this is not a fight for money but it is a fight against people mis-representing Babuji. Babuji believed in Quality rather than Quantity. Hence we have been able to maintain Quality people around.
Also notice that the last letter is typed on an Electronic Typewriter, which you all know was not present in India in 1982. Is that not aproof in itself.
Moreover the case in the Apex court of the country has just taken place and decision is awaited have patience for the order and observations made by court.
For your knowledge there were observations from an High Court Judge that the document of Chari doesn't seem to be genuine as the cover letter was of an earlier date (4 days before) and the Certificate as stated by them was not folded and the envelope so submitted was a small sized envelope. The comments that how can a certificate of A4 size come in to a small envelope.!!!!
If you people wan't to be swayed away from reality and be guided by few unnatural claimants and propogators it is your problem not Babuji's. If you believe Babuji is the only Guru for the coming Years than get back to us or else we are not interested in people who don't believe Babuji & his masters orders which also is clearly noted fact as per Babuji's original diary.
How much more clear can a spiritual order be from Babuji's Master be when he has used the word 'Nutfey' in Urdu which you can verify means 'semen' in English. Stating that your successor will come out of your semen. Original Urdu jpeg file is also being published in our Jan-Feb Issue of Sahaj Marg Patrika.
It is SAD to note that People being in spiritual and being with Babujihave not realised who the true successor is. We are here to serve not be severed for standing in cause of Babuji, by not allowing anyone to deviate from the system laid and only of Babuji Maharaj. We happen to be his blood and you would agree blood is thicker than water. We will not be dishonest to our blood.
Also note that any sane person would not fight for a cause even when he is well settled in life and working at a respectable Management level in one of the top 20 Organizations of the country India. We are also not claiming to be Master's we are only saying we are servants following our Guru's Order.
One last thing on the 13th day from my father's unnatural death my younger brother was warned from reaching to Shahjahanpur by car in person on his way if he wanted his life to remain. But he rung us up and said that if Babuji has given us brothers this work we will not care for our life and he moved to wards Shahjahanpur. Soon within next 10 odd kms a Truck directly collided with the car by coming on the wrong side even when my brother changed his lane the truck followed the car and the car was completely damaged beyond repair. Person sitting right on his back seat died on the spot. But my brother had only a small bruise on his forehead that too due to breakage of glass.
Similarly I was also poisoned on the 3rd of February in the year 2003. I vomitted blood as my father did but could survive without any Medicine. All my Nails turned Blue after a day and one of them have still not taken back to the original colour.
This is the last time I am writing this to you if you people have started doubting on Babuji and start believing in his so called true disciples who have not let Babuji live his life then Nature shall only take care of you people.
Regards
Navneet.

Errata
Read 2nd line of 2nd last para as Year 2006 not 2003.
Regards

If you see the last letter of Babuji it clarifies the role of Dr S.P. Srivastava and other 3 people. As my father was instructed not to actively involve till the true disciple only stay in this mission with him to avoid the repetation of history.
Hence Dr. S.P. Srivastava was heading the society as President so that the dispute could be solved and Chari stops his claim. It is only in 1987 when Chari again got up and attacked the Ashram with few of his followers asking to make him the President. the then ADministrative Authorities asked him to leve the town within 15 minutes and Section 398 was put on him and was barred from entring the district boundaries. Copy of the same is also with us. He has never again attemted to visit Shahjahanpur since then.
As far as my father's death is concerned. He was hale & hearty and we were busy with my younger brother's marriage celebrations.
He just had tea in the Ashram given by one of our disciples. felt uneasy and vomitted blood. he tried to control himself and the doctor was called. He said it is case of poison in blood. but he recovered by next morning and the doctor advised him to take a bottle of blood when he reaches Delhi.
He attended the engagement ceremony of my brother on the next day. He was walking but slightly weak because of loss of blood.
We came to Delhi and in the morning at 9:30 AM we took him to a hospital for a bottle of blood. The doctor gave Anaesthesia to him. We objected to it stating that for giving blood we don't give Anaesthesia. Doctor asked nurse to to push my mother out of the room. My father was talking just before the anaesthesia.
At 3:00 PM we came to know that my father had expired. Best part is I did not give this news to my motherfor about 1/2 hour but I received a call from Shahjahanpur that one of Chari's close aid in Shahjahanpur has rung the ashram and said that Sh. Umesh Chandra is no more.
I wondered that his news of death was known only to the doctor, nuse and me how could the news travel to Chari's camp. Later when I broke the news to my mother she cried saying that Chari has succeeded in killing him. When I asked for detail later came to know that about 15 days back one person had overheard Chari's now Secretary saying that we will have to first kill Umesh then his youngest son. because he is an advocate. He also said that they were talking of some doctor who would help them. My father took it lightly.
After relieving my father. The doctor was asked to do postmortem he refused stating no post mortem can be done. Take the body away. My mother was crying too much so we took the body back to our home.
To our surprise Chari's aides were there at our house within 1 hr of our bringing my father's body. When no one has any contacts or even meet them ever.
When we asked the doctor to give a certificate about his death. The doctor writes he was brought to the hospital with no pulse. How can a man go by lift after walking and sitting Chair after Doctor asked him to sit and tell doctor that he just needs a bottle of blood fast so that he could go back home and answers to doctor that he is just feeling weak and will go back home and be alright.
We then ask the hospital to give records of what was the treatment given to my father for just abour 4 hours that he died even when came walking. The Hospital staff refused to hand over the file to us. Which should be given to us as per law.
We later tried to enquire through a doctor to see the file inside the hospital and tell us about the treatment. Doctor of that hospital said that that particular file is not there all other file copies are there. he also said that he had enquired about it from others. he was told that you will not get that particular file. Dont talk about it till things settle.
Hope now every thing is clear. None of the above incident is manipulated it is a true story but nobody pays heed because of money, and Administrative powers etc. supporting him.
Regards
Navneet

I just know one thing that the rings which Babuji wore were all distributed amongst his sons not Chari. Iwas present in Shahjahanpur when Babuji's Trunk & Box was opened.
It doesn't deter from the fact above.
Regards
Navneet

As far as you say Br. Narayana and Ss. Kasturi are highly honest. I don't refute the fact completely. As far Ss. Aksturi is concerned she was the one who in India said that Chari is the successor way back in 1984 which created this divide. She was all praises for Chari till late about Year 2000. It is only when Chari's Aides through her belongings out of Vizag Ashram and told her not to come back then she became against Chari.
Later my father met Ss. Kasturi asking her to come back to the original SRCM. She agreed but with a condition that she should be given the same place as that given by Babuji and that she would only then ask her followers to come along with her. My father said that she is welcome but, with a condition that there can be only one GURU and that is Babuji Maharaj and we don't wan't any more divisions in the system hence we would not allow anyone to propogate that they are their abhyasis. An abhyasi of SRCM should be only follower of one guru that is Babuji, which is in line with the orders of his Guru which is clearly mentioned in the Diary written by Babuji. She said that she will think it over.
As far as Br. Narayan is considered. He did meet my father way back in the late 90's and agred to support us then once the Supreme Court decides. I don't know his stance as of now.
I can only say that I am acting as per the wish of my master that he shall remain the only MAster till the end and I am no Guru. But, surely can make you feel the same transmission (which I hope you consider or have felt by now and is the synonimity of basis of spiritual elevation.) which was felt, during Babuji's time. Only experience proves.
Once again, Only experience of the true spiritual transmission is a test of presence. People following Babuji even after his physical demise know the best as to how they have had the feelings and presence of babuji. There is a saying in India that You can't tell the taste of anything unless you have tasted one.
It is only your materialistic approach which is making you think that you can't devote to man who is death. You are proving that all your forefathers wasted their time in Church, and you are saying against all spiritual & religious leaders which is false. Do not take this as an explanation that we are creating a religion. No we are not and we do agree that religion divides and spirituality unites.
The path of spirituality you also agree was given by Babuji in SRCM for the benefit of mankind. So what is wrong in abiding by his path and stating that he is the GURU and person who has shown us the path. As Prophet Mohammed had shown for a religion and as Gautam Buddha ji had shown for Budhism.
I hope that you will understand the above explanation if you are whee bit spiritual and understand that Life and death are materialistic and spirituality never dies. Hence the person who has shown us this path of spirituality too always remains a Guru. Even if you were truly devoted to Babuji's path you shouldn't have questioned his and his master's directions as a true seeker.
It does not matter to us whether you decide to take the right path or not. We are only doing our duty to guide people to the right & wrong and they are to decide their own fate.
I really don't know of the inconsistencies you are talking about may be these are there because you have still not completely got associated with the true follower who till date only believes in Babuji and his teachings. It may have cropped up because of your you have still not decided to follow a path and are detouring from the first principle of spirituality i.e. think from your heart not your mind. heart is the centre of spirituality. the moment yo start questioning and thinking here and there there is lack of faith in one particular path. Which is the root cause of all this misappropriations of your mind.
We still say follow what Babuji laid down and taught and practice what you are supposed to for your personal spiritual upliftment.
Please make sure that all the explanation is not to forge a new religion but to forge that all human irerespective of their religion, caste, creed, colour and sex have to follw the spiritual upliftment for their progress.
You have also misunderstood tha division in his lineage. Let me clear that we are against the divisions and we still say that Babuji is the oonly GURU and shall remain till the end of this world. Hence we are against anybody calling himself or herself as Master or a Sub-Guru aor demi-Guru. We are also preaching undivided SRCM who believe in only one GURU the founder alone.
Now the question of murder and last letters of Babuji being fake. You have joined in late 80s We also confirmed on various facts written in the last letter. If there are people around you who had attended the Paris function Ask them if it is false that Chari was proclaiming to be next president. Note same has been written in the letter. The letter also has corrections by hand. Babuji, i know you would not know had a peculiarity in his handwriting which is clearly evident from the letter.
As far as the letter of Nomination of my father and his sons is concerned try and connect the last letter with it and try and compare the words so written in the letters. Also do not forget the fact that Babuji never wrote anything about the mission without his Guru's name and directions too. Also do not forget that Babuji used to work in court and a person adept with law will always write in legal accent which the letter of my father's nomination clearly depicts. And the third letter we are saying is a forged one by Chari and am with you. as the content are no one near to the above stated facts.
If Babuji is gone physically, so does his son and his grandsons opposing Chari then no one opposes Chari as President. Is this reason not good enough to remain a GURU for Chari. But fact remains that when there are no takers as per the constitution and bye laws of the Trust it stands dissolved as per law. It will also not go in hands of culprits. I know my life is in Danger by writing all this but I don't want to budge away from the world like a hyena (who attacks and plays tactics) but wan't to die a lion's death.
Chari's poisoning is all crap. he has not stayed in Ashram after Babuji's funeral. Now it is more than 20 years now. He is trying to take sympathy after we put forward this last letter of Babuji. and in this shelter he and is his aides are playing all the games. You will not believe it because none of your family mambers have faced death in this fashion.
Do not forget that any society or organization works by Byelaws and rules laid down in the constitution. Which was laid down Way back in 1945 when I suppose no one of you or for instance even me were the followers of Babuji. It is very clear in it that as per Section 3a & 4b of the same President has to be in Direct line of succession only. At that time and even todat direct line of succession means genetic son and then his son.
Have ever considered that Spirituality is science. You also would agree that we are made of particles and electrons too. which align in aparticular direction. Transmission is magnetic in nature as it is a flow of energy. It is this energy which aligns us towards spiritual goal. Now when Babuji established this mission and was the one who gave the system for others to follow. He had his particles and electrons always aligned to spirituality.
rest is for you people to analyze as to who is the best representative of such a being. This fact has been aptly told by his Guru in his diaries. You just need to correlate things with science of spirituality.
There is saying. that A cat closes his eyes and drinks milk thinking that no one is seeing it drink. but the fact will remain that the milk has been drunk. So if you don't believe on the facts it is your problem not the world around.
Rest is for you to decide from Heart not your Head.
Regards
Navneet

It is sad to note that you did not take my letter in a true essence and spirit. Maybe I thought you were of the know how of what real transmission was at the time of Babuji. In your first para you have started with Ghost and God. I never meant what you feel in the transmission I only meant that the intensity and the subtleness of transmission which was present during Babuji's era is still felt by people with us. who had been associated since Babuji's physical presence.
Moreover, My Grandfather grandfather was clear of the of the differences between Master and God. And it is sorry to note that you have still not gathered the meanining of the master Master is just a Guide to take you to the path of God realization by showing a path towards the god. He also considered Lalaji as his master and not God as his master even after lalaji's physical demise.
Word devoted does not only mean being devoted to god alone. We use the word devoted followers isn't it. What does it connote does it connote only to GOD or does it also convey being devoted to GURU. I don't know how much you will buy this statement 'As a human you should first learn to be devoted to a human who is showing you the path of devotion to the Ulltimate.' Only then you can be a true devotee. If you known of a path directly to God and have direct interface with God like a physical being (what you desire)with no one to guide you. Then you would surely opt for that.
On Question which you may think over is "Is God Physically present and living to show you a path towards him." then why talk about Living Master too, You have his path, his teachings and the directions given by him to follow to reach the Ultimate isn't it. You may feel that I am trying to provocate you. No I am not I am still trying to answer you even after all the words you have used in your past two messages.
I never ever said that you take Babuji as God and Goal neither did babuji ever say so, but I personally have never seen God, but I have seen Babuji only, who has shown us the path. hence I am devoted to him as my Master who has shown me the path of GOD. Unless I don't have full faith and devotion in my Master how can I have devotion to that GOD.
Neither did I have written nor I mean that we place Babuji in place of GOD. But, I still say that we need to imbibe his characteristics of love, faith and devotion to his Master after which he could achieve GOD. Note that his Master was also not Physically present during his lifetime, esp. after forming this Trust, Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
No where is it written that a Spiritual Representative is a GURU. Yes in Diaries of Babuji it is clearly written that you shall be the only Master for times to come because of you work in this field of spirituality. Hence please do not construe that I an a spiritual Aspirant for GURU but yes I am a spiritual spirant like any other person but with a purpose so ordered by my Master, Babuji. You have grossly misunderstood the statement and has overanalyzed it. Maybe, this is uprooting from the fact that all are calling themselves as Guru of Living Master.
Babuji said Give me a chance to serve you. If you feel to continue continue. here too Babuji never insisted anyone to be his disciple and follow his given path. So who are we. Only mistake that may be I have done is to be a bit upright in saying "It does not matter to us whether you decide to take the right path or not. We are only doing our duty to guide people to the right & wrong and they are to decide their own fate."
It just meant that we are trying to tell you some of the facts which are known to us and are a cause of divide and path here does not mean spiritual Path. But means the right spiritual path. Babuji's followers path or Chari's SRCM TM or say ISRC or Ss Kasturi.
I hope you have understood right or wrong. Here as you told in your comment earlier to follow the true master i.e. God. Similarly follow Babuji (the founder of the system) or imposters is the key question.
Moreover Had I not been thinking of people around the world for their betterment, I would have contacted the world through this blog and nor would have answered to you even after you have used words like 'Shut up', imposter, forged for us. It feels bad when you try to be true to world but, the world is such that it never understands your feeling and trueness but always retaliates as you did. in last two messages.
I hope by now you might have realized and may perhaps be convinced that Faith is not only for GOD but also for the Master first as he is the one who has shown you the path of God irrespective of the fact that he is physically dead or alive. Like a mother will always be a mother till you breathe last, A guru shall always be the one who has shown you the ray of path to God realization. If you are not conviv\nced please do not react now take time to think over it and then reply.
To be on path of spirituality you should first be a good human to respect others esp. I never trusted words like 'Shut up' can be used for someone from his family. Then what is the difference between you and Chari. He also said in one of his statement. earlier during babuji's lifetime openly in front of many that BAbuji has gone mad. Please read the Autobiography of Babuji if you have the right version. he has stated very clearly. that even a dog of my Guru's house has to be given all respect.
One of the most important teavchings and basis of babuji is that you have to achieve spirituality even after living your material life. He has also written that Spirituality and materialism are the two wings of the bird and a balance has to be maintained.
Have you seen the society bye laws of Shri Ram Chandra Mission registered with the Registrar of Societies. For your information Most of the byelaws of our society had been written and redrafted by Babuji MAharaj himself. I hope you will appreciate that any Memoradum of a company or a society is a legal document written in legal language.
So when a person can write in legal language and when he is giving a nomination of a society which is legal entity he will have to write in a legal language.
Where is it written that a lawyer cannot write poetry or about sprituality or where is it that a doctor cannot understand or write about any occult sciences. For intsnce are you earning through spirituality or am I earning through spirituality . NO let it be sure neither of us are earning our bread and butter through spirituality. I am a Management Consultant since over 12 years now.
Understand from the saying of Babuji mentioned above you have to create a balance and man leads both life simultaneously spiritiual and material.
Lastly Facts are not for identifying a spiritual path but to make clear that in name of Babuji there are many a claimants but the facts only clarify that Babuji did not want it the way it is now.
Regards
Navneet

You have got things right now. Now to your question of living trainer. Yes it is important to keep the system alive through a live trainer. That is the reason why Babuji has appointed his spiritual representative. Spiritual representative means only as the word suggests representing some one. It does not mean replacing the person. Hence we say GURU cannot be replaced.
Spiritual Representative works with is team of Preceptors which are the trainers appointed by them. hence living Trainers are essential but not to be considered GURU. I hope the word Spiritual representative used till date by all loosely is clear by now.
Had there been a chance of GURU succeeding Babuji. Babuji in his Memorandum of society or in his books would have somewhere written about subsequent Gurus's and not representative only.
Yes, Ido agree that there is a chance that all criminal Activities taking place are by some people close to Chari but I cannot rule out his involvement completely. Because if he was true and not anywhere involved would have had the courtesy to say sorry on their behalf and would have asked them not to continue such activities further. Put yourself in his shoes. When you have come to know of activities done by your people, which you feel is wrong and if you are a good man you will not think twice in saying sorry for the same and also wouldn't you ask your people to stop carrying out such activities against your GURU's family.
Moreover, One more reality which came to us after the death of my Father is that there was a sister and brother who had come to my father stating that their father is an old abhyasi from Babuji's time and they would like to contribute in running of the Mission like his son & daughter would do. My father agreed and they were working since over 10 years. Even during my marriage things given to sisters of groom coming from the brides house was given to this female. My father also got dresses stitched for the two as he got stitched for my brothers during my marriage.
But, just after my father's death one of my brothers school mate met him, when my brother told about my father was President of SRCM at Shahjahanpur and died recently he then stated that he is following SRCMTm of Chari recalled that while he was in Hyderabad and went to pay a visit Chari with his parents about 5 months before my fathers death. He had seen one male and female coming from Shahjahanpur and when Chari was told about it he left the gathering for sometime and took them to a room nearby. This friend of my brother described the appearance of both male & female who had come.
My brother is given tea on the 14th Movember 2003 (about 11 days after my fathers death soon after accident of my brother in night) by this male which, my brother forgets to drink and in the morning one of our abhyasis find that the tea has turned blue and throws away the tea. Mind you the tea which my father drank 4 days before leaving his physical body and vomitted blood was also given by this male.
We got suspicious about the two. We also had seen a remarkable difference in approach of the two over the last few years. Later we found misappropriations done by the Male & female brother & sister.
Ths incident clearly states that Chari was meeting so called close disciple to my father. who my father considered to be fourth son and daughter.
Now a new message was shouted out by Chari's Secretary while beating my mother and Sh. Amresh Kumar ayear back that the male had poisoned Chari in the AShram.
To our knowledge Chari has not come to Ashram and this boy was only 17 years old in 1992 when he came to us and in 1983 this male would have been on 8 years old and he only came to Ashram with his parents only as a child.
Hence since we don't rake the poison issue before he came up with the new story of poison.
Chari's Aides had forcibly taken the Shahjahanpur Ashram way back in April beginning in last year. Now it is a year and Chari has not visited that ashram till now. (it is about a year now.)
You may decide based on the above incident and a reaction so expected from a good man atleast and moreso proclaimed spiritual man whether it is happening in his know how or not. Moreover if any deed is done by a person of a group the head of the group has to intervene and stop the illdeeds or elae he too seems to be party to the same.
I hoe your questions are answered as of now
Regards
Navneet

I think you are new to the system and have not been since Babuji's time and have not read Babuji's literature or even had a glimpse of Babuji's Preceptors Book. This is the reason that you call preceptors as Spiritual Representatives.
Babuji in his Preceptors book made by Babuji has clearly mentioned that Preceptors are nothing more than a 'monitor of the class.' and his duty is that of a sweeper who cleans the abhyasis.
One more clarity on what a preceptor can do. Preceptor can only clean you and cannot take you higher in the journey of Spiritual upliftment. The journey of spiritual upliftment is in teh hands of individual and is directorly propostional to his faith and devotion with a discipline to follow what has been advised to follow the path of Sahaj Marg after complete surrender to his GURU who is the guide to the path.
Please I again say there is lack of complete knowledge of the original literature and preachings of Babuji at your end. And it also seems you have not been communicated rightly or have not captured things rightly. Babuji or for instance even Lalaji never claimed thet they is 'GOD' and Babuji never said that all preceptors are his representatives. From the begining since 1944 as per the literature of Babuji it has been clear that Spiritual Representative(s) are person(s) representing the Guru in times to come.
Babuji never used the word 'Trainer' in his system it is word to make people understand coming from the word Training. Since you used the word Trainer I thought I could try and explain it in your language.
I request you to please not take any other meaning this time too.
Moreover in the memorandum / Constitution and Byelaws of the Mission made by Babuji while establishing Shri Ram Chandra Mission and the clauses 3(b) and 4 (h) of the registered by laws of Shri Ram Chandra Mission is enumerated below.
3(b) It shall work under the sole guidance and control of the Founder or his Spiritual Representative, in the direct line of succession; and he shall be the President of the Mission.
4(h) He shall nominate among his spiritual successors, any person as his representative, who as such will enjoy all the power and authority vested in the President.
Moreover, even his Guru in 1944 defore the establishment of Shri Ram Chandra Mission. I again repeat as per the original diaries of Babuji as written in earlier e-mail also clearly said that your spiritual successor will be your genetic child. He also said that Babuji's lineage shall keep their name alive for the future times to come.
Please don't again pose a question on above two facts which have been made clear earlier too and in the website too.
From this I thing things are clear regarding your question on President, Spiritual Representatives etc.
Regarding Chari's explanation. I have given enough facts for you to understand, consider and analyze. Do what eveer you wan't but facts will remain facts. I don't wan't to discuss on these further.
Hope your Questions are answered.
Regards
Navneet

I just wan't to say that are a very many unfurling facts which most of you don't know. But I have always talked on what is in form of proof / fact / document hence I have not covered many of these instances i.e. one which A old Abhyasi had referred to. Yes my Aunty did point out the same even to me personally.
I would still say that in spirituality the experience of self during meditation is the litmus test for right or wrong.
Dear Old Abhyasi
I have the minutes of meeting letter copy. I agree that there was a planned plot by not one but by 3 people mainly supported by many. If they hear me and must have known that I know of the three meetings that they had during Babuji's Physical presence. If they remember rightly they had offered one more senior person to be a part of 'conspiracy' as called by that individual. On knowing of the same he refuted them in Delhi which was about 5-6 years before Babuji's physical demise. Please this is also like a statement without documentary proof but yes it is as told by that gentleman known to many a people of the mission who are of Babuji's time.
I would just request you to be a bit patient as there will be a time when the dark clouds over our mission will be removed by nature.
Moreover, I think Don is right as That Don which babuji gave the second life at Ashok Hotel in New Delhi is no more alive.
Dear Christian
I think the version of Autobiography that all have are not the true translation. We have come out with only two volumes in English though Volume 3 and Volume 4 are also ready for print. The original translation in in 7 volumes. Why I say it is not original because There have been personal thought put in while translation of the volumes till now. We are adopting an approach wherein what is written in Urdu is being read by a Moulvi A muslim head Priest. recorded by us and then we are translating in a different language. We are getting this done so that people who know about Sahaj Marg don't start putting in their views in between. We have completed Volume 6 in Hindi only one Volume is effectively left to be translated in Hindi.
I don't have a wee bit doudt on your intellect. It is only that mindset which you have which is blocking your Adaptive capability. I never wanted to hurt you.
Regarding Preceptors
In SRCM way yes what you have got is right.
Guru
Yes GOD is Ultimate what we all need to strive and connect to.
Correction. Representative is not a word It is Spiritual Representative (in direct line of succession- heir as you said) who is the President.
Spiritual Representative is the President. Preceptors are not on one side. and President is not on the other side.
Preceptors are appointed by the President (the Spiritual Representative who is heir.) by saying a 'specific prayer'(which is longer than our Prayer) of which Babuji had given in original to my Father. While giving the same he did ascertain that this is to be passed on to our successors to come.
There is a difference. Representative is like Babuji was to Lalaji but, the difference is as per autobiography Lalaji blessed Babuji that he has modified the system and has reached to such a level that he shall be the ONLY GURU hereon till Mahapralaya (means till the end of world.). hence it is on order of his GURU that he is our GURU and shall remain forever.
Correction Heir does not work through preceptors.
I think it is time that people who do not know what are the changes in System after Babuji's physical demise I will tell you one more thing what Babuji did in 1981-82 which he confided to my father in June '82. The system then was that preceptors used to request Babuji for pwer to be transmitted to Abhyasis. As a result all the goods and evils of the preceptors were passed on to the abhyasis as they becamme the medium through which the power travelled from Ultimate to Babuji to preceptor to Abhyasi.
The change was felt by Babuji that if he does not remain in physical being and moreover this was creating demi-gurus (As some preceptors started misusing these powers to attract Abhyasis to them.) too. He created a power in the cosmic region which would get activated as soon as the prayer is told by a true seeker, having undeterred faith in BAbuji alone. And the abhyasi would receive Transmission.
Now what is preceptor's job. he directs and varies the intensity of the Transmission from this Power to the Abhyasi(s) without his coming in between the Power created by Babuji and his true seeker.
What is spiritual Representatives job. The prayer (which is being transferred to his heir)is being oferred to Babuji to give is used to allow the preceptor to have access to this power for Transmission control purpose only. Apart from this various other super-natural powers possessed by Babuji to be used by him when desired and directed with a humble request and submission to Babuji for Action. No one else can use the super natural powers of the Power created by Babuji.
This power created by Babuji is directly connected to the Ultimate Power that is GOD. Hence without an OK from Babuji the super natural Powers cannot be used.
Moreover we are not here for miracles but, miracles have to be done from time to time if situation demands. My father has successfully used it and there are many examples of the same. But I insist it is not on miracles that we wan't to base our system.
Please this is for all to absorb only. Mull over it and do not question as this is the way we are successfully practising in our in true SRCM group. Abhyasis of Babuji have each and every feeling as it is explained in the system.
I think this solves your problem. Yes If you are a true seeker then the prayer of Babuji offered by a true follower gets him connected to Ultimate through this power.
One more thing I need to clarify is There is no Navel gazing business in our system. If this is followed by someone. This is nothing but Tantrik Vidya in our country. It has nothing to do with Spirituality. It is an effective method to control an individual. we believe and practice that our journey begins from Heart.
I am saying all this because these are the facts disclosed to me and the usage is person dependant and cannot be taken or learnt. It is as per direction of Nature only that we are here using what Babuji has created.
Surat Function if people remenber was a different experience of Transmisiion. This was a test of the power created by Babuji.
Two more answers to questions that are troubling you.
One why did we not take action based on the letter. For your knowledge the letter was given to my father in 1994 by after which we have filed a case in High court. And the observations of Judge clearly states that there is seems to be involvement of Chari in Shri Ram Chandra ji's murder.
Note that soon after the letter was handed over to my father. After about 3 to 4 months Sh. Jahangirdhar also died on the spot at his residence soon after he was given pills in name of medicine by an individual. the individual was beaten in closed room and asked who was behind it he said I can't name him otherwise he will kill me too. Now I am not saying who is behind it and what was the benefit he could have got.
hence our most solid witness of the person who had received the letter was no more to be produced before the court.
Jahangirdhar also conveyed many a secrets that Babuji had confided to him which were fetal for the future of Sahaj Marg.
I did not tell you this stories of Jahangirdarji and my aunty earlier because we have only living proofs i.e. individuals but no document supporting it. Moreover If I name the individuals who knows they will also lead to a similar death.
Thsi is the reason we are requesting the Head of the country for CBI enquiry.
I wanted that these meassges reach the people at large so that they don't fall in a trap. We wan't them to benefit from the real system. I am not against anybody. But, am raising a voice against anybody who is misrepesenting babuji's system to others.
I am happy that more and more people have got onto this blog. I leave the rest to you people whether to keep discussing or do something in real like a lion what babuji desired rather than just talk ill about the people aroundor question them. Act dont just discuss and talk. join us only if you are a true seeker not an imposter. We are tired of them. Plaese pardon for God Sake now.
Rest the net will speak.
Last but not the least thanks to B and all others for understanding the pains we are facing. Dare to be a party to it not a mere seer.
Regards to all
Navneet

1) Why Chari was not assisting the working committee? Was it because he was welcome as it seems he was not welcome in Paris, in spite of the invitation?
Chari was not a member of Working Committee after being removed as Scretary by Babuji in 1980. Hence is name does not figure. He did present his nomination while the body of Babuji was still burning in the cremation ceremony as an individual not a working committee member. When people objected asking him to wait till the body is completely burned but he did not even have the courtesy to wait till the body is completely cremated.
2) Why some dates have been modified in wc_meeting_feb_1984.html and gc_meeting_feb1984.html?
Dates were may be wrongly typesd and actual were corrected on the same. If you notice in point 6 of last page the date is written correctly. and the second date that of will offcourse was wrongly written and then re-typed over it. remember we did not have computers at that time in India.
Same is the case in GC meeting letter it is written rightle later.
3) Why was Sarnad later in the SRCMtm (I saw him there in 1999)?
This is the falacy which we had had to face. After he made the circular he despatched 1st lot and then he was asked not to despatch others to all by Chari but, we really don't know the reason why he did not despatch all and we soon came to know that he has joined hands with Chari.
We were lucky that some of them received it and they have remained with us till date.
You would also now appreciate that My father in betterment of the mission and for the sake that mission does not break up why he agreed for Chairman of Goodwill committee so that a senior may act as bridge with Chari. That is Dr. S.P. Srivastava was made Chairman as he was an old Abhyasi/Preceptor. It is only when things could not be controlled by him for a decade long attempt. then my father had to atep in back completely and deal with the situation himself.
Hope the above answers your query and also proves many a stories told to you by others being false too. Rest I leave it to you to judge.
Regards
Navneet

The SRCM is officially created by Babuji on July 21, 1945 in Shahjahanpur, its statutes are registered in Bareilly.
As desired by all and especially you I have put up the Minutes of meeting of Working Committee, General Body and circular.
Regards
Navneet

Some reasons have history behind them and some benefits. All of this is a long story which starts of 10 years before babuji's Physical demise.
Such facts cannot be explained in writing.
Regards
Navneet

We are told on Elodie's Blog that "Sister" Kasturi Chaturvedi and Dinesh Kumar Saxena, grandson of Lalaji and Owner and Web-Master of the NaqshMuMRa site, are now Preceptors of Chari's SRCMtm, registered in California...can anyone confirm that?
Both had joined Chari as I had said earlier and were in his list. But Kasturi Chaturvedi ji as I said had left him after her belongings were thrown out as said earlier.
As far as Dinesh Kumar Saxena ji is concerned. He too had joined Chari as Chari promised to help him marry his daughter. Which, he did so later on hence he was with him. Now, it seems Dinesh Kumar is separating again.
Dear AB
Your question: “Mr. Navneet Kumar, I am able to imagine what happened in this “closed room”. Can you explain if this is the practical application of your spiritual theory in life?
I just narrated the incident which took place and by the person who was involved in questioning the gentleman who was the tool to Sh. Jahangirdar ji’s death. Moreover, just to bring to your notice that Sh. Jehangirdar ji did tell my father 3-4 months before his death that he knows that he will also die, like Babuji died and that was the reason that he gave the last letter of Babuji to my father during his visit to Shahjahanpur.
Out of his explanations it seems to me stated, too, that Babuji (the special personality) seemed to be unable to find out who tried to make an attempt on his life.
Babuji did know that he attempt was being made on his life. His last letter clearly states so too. He also predicted his long hospitalization, which also was true as we know that Babuji was in Hospital from September soon after coming back from Paris to April 19th 1983 (The day of his Mahasamadhi.
Moreover ,as pointed by A old abhyasi about my Aunty stating Babuji’s request of FIR before leaving to Paris also clearly states that Babuji knew what the future had store for him.
Dear M
Your Question : Is the announcement made by Anonymous on March 17th @ 11.52 pm that in July SRCM name will be changed to "Shri Rajagopala Chari Mission" genuine or some kind of wry joke?
I Agree with you, there are legal implications to it. He may not be allowed to use the same name, logo, neither use funds and properties so gathered on Name of ‘Shri Ram Chandra Mission.’ Or any other organization floated using the funds so gathered from Shri Ram Chandra Mission or Sahaj Marg. Moreso, if we take a stance he cannot publish any material of Babuji also nor use it in future.
Please I am answering this from legal point of view only. We have always conveyed to anybody approaching from his group that he should separate himself from this system given by Babuji Maharaj and open some other body which, solely runs on his name with no connection whatsoever to Shri Ram Chandra Mission or Babuji Maharaj and his Method.
We believe in ONE MASTER, ONE MISSION & ONE METHOD only, where the Master is Babuji alone, following his teachings and method laid down to achieve our spiritual goal of life.
I agree by your and Chritian’s view on opening the so called to "Shri Rajagopala Chari Mission" – NOT PRACTICALLY POSSIBLE.
Dear Aurelius.
Can you clarify this Navneet? Was Chari with Babuji when he died?
As soon as Babuji arrived at Delhi Airport, Chari just left Babuji at the Airport and went to on of Delhi’s Sr Preceptors house and later soon caught his Flight to Chennai.
My father had gone to America for his treatment, after attending the paris function. He came to know of Babuji’s illness and that he had been taken to Hospital. So he cut short his visit returned back, and then remained with Babuji till he was in the hospital.
Chari was not there at the time of Babuji’s death. But, did reach for the funeral where he did not even touch Babuji’s feet but, started holding meetings in the Ashram with his people and asked them to make him the next president even while Babuji’s Funeral was taking place.
Comment dated March 22, 2007 4:54 AM by Anonymous stated below
MICHAEL - From "Heart to Heart" by P. Rajagopalachari(p 272/3)
" But some people persist in addressing me as "Master". I have been annoyed by this practice myself for two or three reasons, you see, for one thing, it has alienated me from a section of the senior abhyasis of my Master who think I have usurped some sort of position to which I am not entitled, into which I have not grown. Some of them even said that I am responsible for my Msster's untimely demise. That is one thing. The second thing is: I have never claimed to be a Master."
Lastly (I don’t know when the book was published but the above statement clearly states that Chari himself knows that allegations of Murder will come up in due course. !!!!!!
As far as the truth of Don being present at the time of Nomination of Chari is concerned. There shall soon be on net a document putforth by Chari himself to support absence of Don at the time of his Nomination.
There is one more document from the horse’s (Chari’s) mouth expected to clarify and help decide the lot of misled true seekers as what they should decide, after all this.
Navneet

Reply to Anonymous
Navneetji....please let me know why there is acompetetion for GURU'S position,(a)in spirituality there can be only one GURU,where as in religion there is so called GURU PARAMPARA.(b)THE real MASTER is the one who is with THE ULTIMATE.. only can trasmitt yogic power& rest of them only artificial vibration.... pl explain
We are fighting in line with your thinking as we also agree that there is only one Guru and that is Babuji alone. We have to follow the path of Babuji alone.
We are against anybody following the system given by Babuji and claiming thyself o any other guru of sub-guru
There is no competition of GURU from our side. We have and will always claim Babuji as the only Guru of SRCM.
As far as transmission is concerned, Babuji has taken care of the same before leaving his physical Body. We experience and derive benefit from the same, till now.
Rest we leave it on the seekers expeerience you decide.

Reply to 4d-don
1. Do you have a new link to the Supreme Court of India with your case number that I could place in the Wiki Articles for all to see?
The link to Supreme Court judgement is http://courtnic.nic.in/supremecourt/temp/ac661900p.txt
2. Has there been a judgement on the matter by the Supreme Court of India?
We are still waiting for the judgement. Orders are still reserved. It seems long judgements and supports when decided judges take their own time.
3. Are you still in good health and have the support of good people who would get the word out (to us) in case of accident or mishap? Can you make that public?
Heath is good as of now. Was out of station hence could not reply. we do have support of a good number of people around as of now.
Was out of station, will update some more facts in a few days from now.
Navneet

Divine Order is printed in Hindi in 7 volumes while two volumes of the seven are in English.
Most of our stock was at Shahjahanpur Ashram at the time of incident way back on 2nd April 2006.
We are waiting for the Supreme court orders after which we may be able to take back the same.
We are already ready to go on for printing of Volume 3,4 and 5 in English but are waiting for appropriate time to do so.
Navneet

After coming back from Chari left Babuji at the Airport ad proceeded to house of one preceptor in Delhi and said to all the abhyasis that Babuji is being brought by a porter.
Then Kashi Ram Agarwal took Babuji to Shahjahanpur in semi-concscious stage. he was soon brought back to Delhi All India Medical Institute. Where the doctors reported traces of Arsenic found in blood.
Chari after leaving babuji at the Airport proceeded to Chennai. Returned only when some abhyasis of Chennai commented that he should be with Babuji at the Hospital.
My father who had gone to US for his treatment. Cut short his visit and rushed to delhi as soon as he came to know of Babuji's illness. my father Umesh Chandra nursed Babuji as an attendant for eight months of stay in hospital. Had to leave his job for the same as he refused to join till his father was well.
After about 4 months All India Institute claimed that he is allright medically but does not want to get us not eat. 6 months he was shifted to a private hospital, where again doctor commented that his system s working fine but is not ready to eat. Hence he was kept on liquid diet through a pipe.
One day he was absolutely fine as said by Doctor on the 18th April night in 1983. But suddenly Babuji quietly closed his eyes on 19th April morning. though he was absolutely fine as per Doctor a while before closing his eyes too.
Q II
Since the case is in supreme court can you inform us what was the outcome of case in lower court ? the case must have been debated in lower courts as well. What was the outcome of it ?
There are many cases in lower court including some criminal cases against Chari which are in progress.
Offcourse the case was not even heard properly on law point in lower courts hence we went to supreme court. As you all know the Apex court only makes new law. Hence we were heard finally in Supreme court for law for amendments in it.
There are many more cases hence it is notn feasible to tell about all it will be seen in our website after a few days.
QIII
I was out to celebrate Babuji's 108th Birthday, Out of station for official work and also ill. Am again going out of station will come back and reply further.
Regards
Navneet

Reply to comment of Anonymous dated 29th June
Navneet - Did you say that your Father had received instructions from Babuji for making preceptors? - Audrey.
Yes my grandfather handed over a special prayer which is used to make a preceptor giving him permission to request and connect to divine for transmission. Which has now been handed over to us.
Also note that the prayer ngiven to make a preceptor is such that it works only if it is oferred by a real successor representative. If anyone else offers the same without the consent of the spiritual representative it does not work.
Navneet

Reply to Your Question
Is it true that Chariji was the only preceptor that was permited to make preceptors in Babuji's life time ?
In mid of Year 1976 when Babuji visited Madras (now called Chennai) he stayed at our house with us. One day Chari took him to his house from morning to evening. It was than he asked for two permissions one to make preceptorsand the other to have all powers of president being the General Secretary.
Babuji refused him on the face. he got so annoyed that he did not come till 3 days to visit Babuji feeling hurt on refusal for the same bluntly by Babuji.
In the year 1973 too Chari, Sister Kasturi and Shri Raghavendra Rao asked Babuji to distribute his power amongst the three as Babuji had grown old as per them so that Sis Kasturi could take care of North India, Bro. Raghvendra Rao to take care of South India and he himself (Chari) to take care of overseas.
On this Babuji proved to them as to what level of spirituality they are in. Babuji transmitted to about 2 and half year child. The child turned red but was still happily playing with Babuji's sandal.
Babuji then asked all the three to close their eyes so that he could transmit to them. In about three to four minutes thay all opened their eyes requesting Babuji to stop transmitting as they would die.
Then Babuji told them that showing his thumb that if I had transmitted this much to this child (showing the first phallenge , upper part of his thumb. I did not even tranmit power equivalent to the tip of his thumb to Chari & others and they could not bear it.
He then said now you can understand what is your level and how could they take his power. All the three got up and left the room.
Babuji wanted to prove that spirituality has no age relevance. and that the child which belonged to his family could easily take more power that any othe three present asking for distribution of Babuji's power.
This incident happened at our house inpresence of Sh. M.D. Jahangirdar ji and my mother they also claim that the power transmitted was so much that none of them could bear the power and all opened their eyes. It is not a story but a true happening which, I am sure Chari and Sis. Kasturi also know fron deep within their heart as to where they actually stood.
This is not a story but an incident. You want to take it take it. Spirituality needs no proving. Take it or leave it.

Regards
Navneet

Témoignage de Navneet Kumar Saxena, petit-fils de Babuji, du 18/01/2007 au 22/08/07, sur Tell Me Truth India